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jase   Australia. Jul 10 2008 01:25. Posts 1604

not sure if this is standard or not, first time playing PLO just looking for a heads up.
do i ever want to get it in w/ 2nd nut flushdraw, how often am i dominated by the nutflush draw?

Submitted by : jase

PokerStars Game #18645818079: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/07/07 - 10:02:31 (ET)
Table 'Virton' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Cardenal21 ($14.20 in chips)
Seat 2: xghjase ($7 in chips)
Seat 3: CHUCKIN8OR ($19.40 in chips)
Seat 4: BoreN =P ($5.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Roffe9999 ($25.30 in chips)
Seat 6: zooropean177 ($10 in chips)
xghjase : posts small blind $0.05
CHUCKIN8OR: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to xghjase TcKdQdJh
BoreN =P: folds
Roffe9999: calls $0.10
zooropean177: folds
Cardenal21: calls $0.10
xghjase : raises $0.40 to $0.50
CHUCKIN8OR: calls $0.40
Roffe9999: calls $0.40
Cardenal21: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.60)

   AhTd5d
xghjase : bets $1.40
CHUCKIN8OR: raises $4.35 to $5.75
Roffe9999: calls $5.75
xghjase : raises $0.75 to $6.50 and is all-in
CHUCKIN8OR: calls $0.75
Roffe9999: calls $0.75

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $21.10)

   AhTd5d2c
CHUCKIN8OR: bets $12.40 and is all-in
Roffe9999: folds
Uncalled bet ($12.40) returned to CHUCKIN8OR

River (Pot : $21.10)

   AhTd5d2c2s

Showdown
xghjase : shows TcKdQdJh (two pair, Tens and Deuces)
CHUCKIN8OR: shows As4c8hAc (a full house, Aces full of Deuces)
CHUCKIN8OR collected $20.05 from pot

Summary
Total pot $21.10 | Rake $1.05
Board  AhTd5d2c2s
Seat 1: Cardenal21 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: xghjase (small blind) showed TcKdQdJh and lost with two pair, Tens and Deuces
Seat 3: CHUCKIN8OR (big blind) showed As4c8hAc and won ($20.05) with a full house, Aces full of Deuces
Seat 4: BoreN =P folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Roffe9999 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: zooropean177 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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Bejamin1   Canada. Jul 10 2008 08:27. Posts 7042

This is fine, but preferably in Omaha you would like to draw only to the nuts. Getting it in on the flop like this though your main draw is to the straight and the flush is really just extra outs/backup outs so I don't mind it. Personally I play the hand differently though and if I lead its as a semi-bluff for 2/3 or 1/2 the pot. That or since your OOP vs. two people you can check call and get good value to draw to your nut hand or check-shove and every so often have fold equity. Lastly you should probably play with a full stack.

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Forrest Gump   Argentina. Jul 12 2008 00:24. Posts 1217

you have backdoor anything + 2 blocker if you're against the nut FD. Also the deeper players can drive each other out of the pot, that's a good advantage if the AAA made fold a wrap or the nut FD
If you play deeper I doubt Im raising from SB; with 50BB or less I dont mind. 70BB seems borderline, but postflop I dont see anything really wrong

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 12 2008 18:24. Posts 20070

your hand is sooo the nuts, christ

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SemPeR   Canada. Jul 16 2008 01:58. Posts 2288

You have the nut straight......how often are you dominated but the nut flush draw?
xP


nolan   Ireland. Jul 20 2008 17:14. Posts 6205

This isn't that good. You don't have the nuts.

Don't listen to the other guys, this is an easy fold.

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