ub adds names to superuser,UNREAL

http://www.ultimatebet.com/poker-news

The additional usernames include: Crackcorn55, WhakMe, GrabBag123, gravitation, Bgroup, H_Curtis, Twenty 1, WacoManiac, Broke_In_L_A, ShaqTack, BlueBerry101, HolyMucker, 55WasHere, Xnomas, dannyboy55, Indy05, SlimPikins2. The same perpetrators we had previously identified controlled all of these usernames; there are no new perpetrators involved, only new usernames.

basically talk on 2plus2 has it that freddie deeb and or hellmuth might have been involved in this

so much bad news with online poker lately

fuuuuuuuuuuuck

online poker really is taking a hit and between this and the us law in 2006 its a big difference.

supposedly an ub insider posted transaction histories from hellmuths account and he did transfers with one or more of the superuser accts..LOL

link to the 2+2 suspicions on Freeddie debb and hellmuth

wow if fucking phil hellmuth is involved i can't imagine how big of a detriment this could be to online poker

2+2 link regarding hellmuth transactions

it starts here

On July 08 2008 20:21 jkpickett wrote: wow if fucking phil hellmuth is involved i can't imagine how big of a detriment this could be to online poker

ive always hated hellmuth.

On July 08 2008 20:30 GameOverNoob wrote: 2+2 link regarding hellmuth transactions

qft

also WTF this is so so fucking bad
god damn it

I always thought Hellmuth was a douchebag, this might solidify it but because of his close ties to UB the insider may have just asked for help with money transfers and phil having no idea what is going on just was nice and helped.

he can dodge bullets baby he dont need to look at ur cards

hope hellmuth burns in a greasefire

60 minute special wtf

poker scene needs help ASAP

also everytime i see freddy deeb on tv hes such a total jackass cunt. if either were involved in anything shady i hope they get what they fully deserve.

has anyone taken the time to go theough the entire "annie duke a liar?" thread... http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=237495
there is some seriously convincing criminal intent on Freddy deebs behalf that he was heavily involved along with helmuth and the UB mgmt

601193779 24026.50 Customer #112054 leaves table 37040174 (Paris) with $24026.50 2007-FEB-01 07:03:31 AM game server
601181642 -5000.00 Customer #112054 sits down at table 37040174 (Paris) with $5000 2007-FEB-01 06:36:48 AM game server

Kid55 (freddy) made such amount in less than half an hour and this happened many times.

the number 55 is very odd too, being located in many superusers names, freddy's email adress and also being his date of birth.

IMO this is going to blow up to incredible proportions.

Just read the thread and all I can say is WOW. I will never play on a site other than PS again.

lol i guess deeb does go south

Phil and Annie are probably in but there isnt solid proof yet... but it seems that Freddy Deeb and Russ Hamilton are fucked.

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

lol i tought about that too... i were like "no wonder why he went apeshit when he was jokingly accused of cheating"

maybe someone can update my cliff notes:

Past:
-players are suspicious about a player named "PotRipper" who won an enormous online tournament w/ some absurdly good call (particularly the last one where he called an allin with T high on the turn and held)
-one of the players requests a hand history from the tournament to review his own hands and to look at some hands PotRipper was involved in
-someone at absolutepoker accidentally provides a "super hand history" which includes ALL the hole cards of ALL players on ALL tables throughout the entire tournament AND has the IP addresses/e-mail of players and observers playing/observing all tables.
-it becomes clear that "PotRipper" has vision of his opponents cards. He open folds Kings in one hand when a player to act behind has aces. Moreover, he calls all sorts of hand with junk and minraises perfectly in weird situations.
-Upon further investigation, it is found that PotRipper cheated blatantly in all except for a handful of hands played when a certain observer is NOT observing his table.
-Upon further-er investigation, it is found that the observer is an ex-owner of absolutepoker and has access to some sort of "superuser" account which allows him to have vision of all players cards in real time. the observer gave PotRipper the info he needed to win.
-Upon further-est investigation, it is found that PotRipper and the ex-owner duo have been superusering their way to victory in several tournaments over the course of several weeks, taking ~1million from the online poker tournament community.
-The online community shits a collective brick and avoids absolutepoker completely.
-Suspicions of superusers on othersites occur. It's eventually found out that UltimateBet has superuser accounts and apparently there has been some superusering cheating-ness occurring in the high stakes cash games on ultimate bet!

Present: (i'm still a bit confused if any of this is incorrect)
-it turns out UltimateBet has released the IDs of ADDITIONAL OTHER accounts who had been involved in a cheating scandal since 2005.
-phil hellmuth and annie duke may have been involved, whereas freddie deeb and russ hamilton are certainly involved

Future:
-ultimatebet goes bankrupt?

is any of the stuff i posted incorrect?? i'll try to update if i'm wrong

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

looks like where he'll be going he'll need to know how to go south.

god damnit

this is so bad for online poker

All looks correct, UltimateBet although should go bankrupt may not.
Freddy Deeb will certainly go to prison once he is accounted for being at one of these computers on one of these accounts. (Which not be as easily proven as you may think)

All in all, this is terrible for the poker community
Funny that I was woken up this afternoon by an Ultimatebet representative, guess their downward spiral has begun

I wouldn't mind reading the headlines "pro poker player found dead in his hotel room" aka freddy deeb. He is such a bad player too, fuck him

i dont think anybody will end up in jail sadly.

On your cliff notes its missing that Deeb and Russ were found out to be involved because there are several transactions from a "filter" account to many of the cheating accounts sent money to, and then that account "fred" sent money to Deeb and Russ, plus the whole 55 thing (Deeb's nick being Kid55, and 3 of the cheaters have 55s in them, also its his birthday and he has 55 in his MSN)

don't worry about them they'll just claim they were framed and will be ok

...

something realllllllly fishy is going going down on that 2+2 forum.

I'm finished looking into it for now, but i happen to think people are being paid to add/take away info

noone is going to jail but makes you wonder when someone gets fed up and starts just marking hits for fractions of the amount of money being stolen.

On July 09 2008 00:46 GameOverNoob wrote: something realllllllly fishy is going going down on that 2+2 forum. I'm finished looking into it for now, but i happen to think people are being paid to add/take away info

Yes very fishy, now that particular thread is having database errors yet the rest of 2+2 threads are perfectly fine............

wat?

:O sick

=[

huge news but not good for poker

fuck ub.

On July 09 2008 04:03 EvilSky wrote: fuck ub.

go ps

Day[9] the potripper stuff happened on absolute and he did most of his cheating in high stakes cash games

Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho

On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho

errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?"

deeb's reaction was retarded

Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger.
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raidern

On July 09 2008 07:33 lpblog wrote: Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger. -- raidern

yeah its a shame faggots like those give a bad name but this MUST go public and big to avoid shit like this happening in the future, its a price we must pay.

On July 09 2008 07:14 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?" deeb's reaction was retarded

completely wrong. I't seems deeb is involved/guilty but if u call a fatass fatass he'll get mad bc it's inappropriate and a real insult, whereas a skinny guy doesn't have to plead a case or take it literally.

When cops accuse ppl of crimes though that they can't readily prove they didn't commit , it's usually the guilty ones that don't make a big fuss/stay cool and the innocent onces that feel attacked and get angry

^ just depends on the person

this is a very messed up situation tho

if helmiuth is involved or deeb is online poker is in the shitter

Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one.