ub adds names to superuser,UNREAL

http://www.ultimatebet.com/poker-news

The additional usernames include: Crackcorn55, WhakMe, GrabBag123, gravitation, Bgroup, H_Curtis, Twenty 1, WacoManiac, Broke_In_L_A, ShaqTack, BlueBerry101, HolyMucker, 55WasHere, Xnomas, dannyboy55, Indy05, SlimPikins2. The same perpetrators we had previously identified controlled all of these usernames; there are no new perpetrators involved, only new usernames.

basically talk on 2plus2 has it that freddie deeb and or hellmuth might have been involved in this

so much bad news with online poker lately

fuuuuuuuuuuuck

online poker really is taking a hit and between this and the us law in 2006 its a big difference.

supposedly an ub insider posted transaction histories from hellmuths account and he did transfers with one or more of the superuser accts..LOL

link to the 2+2 suspicions on Freeddie debb and hellmuth

wow if fucking phil hellmuth is involved i can't imagine how big of a detriment this could be to online poker

2+2 link regarding hellmuth transactions

it starts here

On July 08 2008 20:21 jkpickett wrote: wow if fucking phil hellmuth is involved i can't imagine how big of a detriment this could be to online poker

ive always hated hellmuth.

On July 08 2008 20:30 GameOverNoob wrote: 2+2 link regarding hellmuth transactions

qft

also WTF this is so so fucking bad
god damn it

I always thought Hellmuth was a douchebag, this might solidify it but because of his close ties to UB the insider may have just asked for help with money transfers and phil having no idea what is going on just was nice and helped.

he can dodge bullets baby he dont need to look at ur cards

hope hellmuth burns in a greasefire

60 minute special wtf

poker scene needs help ASAP

also everytime i see freddy deeb on tv hes such a total jackass cunt. if either were involved in anything shady i hope they get what they fully deserve.

has anyone taken the time to go theough the entire "annie duke a liar?" thread... http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=237495
there is some seriously convincing criminal intent on Freddy deebs behalf that he was heavily involved along with helmuth and the UB mgmt

601193779 24026.50 Customer #112054 leaves table 37040174 (Paris) with $24026.50 2007-FEB-01 07:03:31 AM game server
601181642 -5000.00 Customer #112054 sits down at table 37040174 (Paris) with $5000 2007-FEB-01 06:36:48 AM game server

Kid55 (freddy) made such amount in less than half an hour and this happened many times.

the number 55 is very odd too, being located in many superusers names, freddy's email adress and also being his date of birth.

IMO this is going to blow up to incredible proportions.

Just read the thread and all I can say is WOW. I will never play on a site other than PS again.

lol i guess deeb does go south

Phil and Annie are probably in but there isnt solid proof yet... but it seems that Freddy Deeb and Russ Hamilton are fucked.

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

lol i tought about that too... i were like "no wonder why he went apeshit when he was jokingly accused of cheating"

maybe someone can update my cliff notes:

Past:
-players are suspicious about a player named "PotRipper" who won an enormous online tournament w/ some absurdly good call (particularly the last one where he called an allin with T high on the turn and held)
-one of the players requests a hand history from the tournament to review his own hands and to look at some hands PotRipper was involved in
-someone at absolutepoker accidentally provides a "super hand history" which includes ALL the hole cards of ALL players on ALL tables throughout the entire tournament AND has the IP addresses/e-mail of players and observers playing/observing all tables.
-it becomes clear that "PotRipper" has vision of his opponents cards. He open folds Kings in one hand when a player to act behind has aces. Moreover, he calls all sorts of hand with junk and minraises perfectly in weird situations.
-Upon further investigation, it is found that PotRipper cheated blatantly in all except for a handful of hands played when a certain observer is NOT observing his table.
-Upon further-er investigation, it is found that the observer is an ex-owner of absolutepoker and has access to some sort of "superuser" account which allows him to have vision of all players cards in real time. the observer gave PotRipper the info he needed to win.
-Upon further-est investigation, it is found that PotRipper and the ex-owner duo have been superusering their way to victory in several tournaments over the course of several weeks, taking ~1million from the online poker tournament community.
-The online community shits a collective brick and avoids absolutepoker completely.
-Suspicions of superusers on othersites occur. It's eventually found out that UltimateBet has superuser accounts and apparently there has been some superusering cheating-ness occurring in the high stakes cash games on ultimate bet!

Present: (i'm still a bit confused if any of this is incorrect)
-it turns out UltimateBet has released the IDs of ADDITIONAL OTHER accounts who had been involved in a cheating scandal since 2005.
-phil hellmuth and annie duke may have been involved, whereas freddie deeb and russ hamilton are certainly involved

Future:
-ultimatebet goes bankrupt?

is any of the stuff i posted incorrect?? i'll try to update if i'm wrong

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

looks like where he'll be going he'll need to know how to go south.

god damnit

this is so bad for online poker

All looks correct, UltimateBet although should go bankrupt may not.
Freddy Deeb will certainly go to prison once he is accounted for being at one of these computers on one of these accounts. (Which not be as easily proven as you may think)

All in all, this is terrible for the poker community
Funny that I was woken up this afternoon by an Ultimatebet representative, guess their downward spiral has begun

I wouldn't mind reading the headlines "pro poker player found dead in his hotel room" aka freddy deeb. He is such a bad player too, fuck him

i dont think anybody will end up in jail sadly.

On your cliff notes its missing that Deeb and Russ were found out to be involved because there are several transactions from a "filter" account to many of the cheating accounts sent money to, and then that account "fred" sent money to Deeb and Russ, plus the whole 55 thing (Deeb's nick being Kid55, and 3 of the cheaters have 55s in them, also its his birthday and he has 55 in his MSN)

don't worry about them they'll just claim they were framed and will be ok

...

something realllllllly fishy is going going down on that 2+2 forum.

I'm finished looking into it for now, but i happen to think people are being paid to add/take away info

noone is going to jail but makes you wonder when someone gets fed up and starts just marking hits for fractions of the amount of money being stolen.

On July 09 2008 00:46 GameOverNoob wrote: something realllllllly fishy is going going down on that 2+2 forum. I'm finished looking into it for now, but i happen to think people are being paid to add/take away info

Yes very fishy, now that particular thread is having database errors yet the rest of 2+2 threads are perfectly fine............

wat?

:O sick

=[

huge news but not good for poker

fuck ub.

On July 09 2008 04:03 EvilSky wrote: fuck ub.

go ps

Day[9] the potripper stuff happened on absolute and he did most of his cheating in high stakes cash games

Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho

On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho

errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?"

deeb's reaction was retarded

Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger.
--
raidern

On July 09 2008 07:33 lpblog wrote: Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger. -- raidern

yeah its a shame faggots like those give a bad name but this MUST go public and big to avoid shit like this happening in the future, its a price we must pay.

On July 09 2008 07:14 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?" deeb's reaction was retarded

completely wrong. I't seems deeb is involved/guilty but if u call a fatass fatass he'll get mad bc it's inappropriate and a real insult, whereas a skinny guy doesn't have to plead a case or take it literally.

When cops accuse ppl of crimes though that they can't readily prove they didn't commit , it's usually the guilty ones that don't make a big fuss/stay cool and the innocent onces that feel attacked and get angry

^ just depends on the person

this is a very messed up situation tho

if helmiuth is involved or deeb is online poker is in the shitter

Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one.

On July 09 2008 08:11 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 07:14 Baal wrote:   On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?" deeb's reaction was retarded completely wrong. I't seems deeb is involved/guilty but if u call a fatass fatass he'll get mad bc it's inappropriate and a real insult, whereas a skinny guy doesn't have to plead a case or take it literally. When cops accuse ppl of crimes though that they can't readily prove they didn't commit , it's usually the guilty ones that don't make a big fuss/stay cool and the innocent onces that feel attacked and get angry

What... you live in bizarro world or something.


If you call gay a man who is absolutely secure of his sexuality he wont mind ur attempt of insult, however if you call "gay" somebody who represses his homosexuality you are definitelly going to see some reaction in them.

Freedy Deeb's reaction was definitelly unnatural, he stopped the game angrily and asked for the floorman ffs... it was all acted and pathetic as u can see just seconds later he is doing gay shit with a rose with Sheikhan as nothing happened.

On July 09 2008 07:59 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 07:33 lpblog wrote: Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger. -- raidern yeah its a shame faggots like those give a bad name but this MUST go public and big to avoid shit like this happening in the future, its a price we must pay.

I do really wonder though that if this goes major public and all, if online poker will ever fully recover from the blow it got from it... I mean, I was already hoping Obama would make online poker in the US legal again (he was the only one that supposrted it in his election program)...

Might as well take all my money off online poker or what, shit barely even got started in it all...

jesus this is so sick, it even has implacations to full tilt software, the same guy made it

On July 09 2008 09:23 Zorglub wrote: jesus this is so sick, it even has implacations to full tilt software, the same guy made it

Same first name only.

I know I'm a low to midstakes grinder, but whats funny to me is even given all this I'd still play a cash game on ub way before ftp

of course given this fiasco I've cashed out everywhere except stars, leaving only 20 bucks on both AP and UB just encase I need an escape

On July 09 2008 08:47 Catul wrote: Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one.

2 totally seperate superuser scandals?? UB and AP aren't related?

In that case can someone go over how this UB scandal started??

just wow

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

ROFL

On July 09 2008 07:14 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?" deeb's reaction was retarded

lol i love this post. great analogy. the example about calling a closet homo a "fag" is better tho. they will get all pissed, but someone secure in his straightness will laugh off the insult

this is the deeb episode i think

ya Baals right on the mark there

On July 09 2008 10:36 Fraser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 08:47 Catul wrote: Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one. 2 totally seperate superuser scandals?? UB and AP aren't related? In that case can someone go over how this UB scandal started??

Yep, and the superusers accounts on UB date back to 2005, so way before AB bought them.
Read the first post of http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=99247 for a summary of both of them, minus the recent developments.

how real are the chances that helmuth was involved in this? what are the circumstantial evidence?

i know i could read it myself but it's soooo long so i hope that someone who read it already could summarize it plz

On July 09 2008 10:22 Catul wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 09:23 Zorglub wrote: jesus this is so sick, it even has implacations to full tilt software, the same guy made it Same first name only.

Not just same first name, look at Jack Bates credentials:

http://www.tiltedplacitan.net/jack_resume_current.html


"Sr. Software Engineer, October 2001-December 2003
Server Security and Performance
ieLogic, Inc., software provider to UltimateBet.com, Portland, OR, USA"

Sr. Software Engineer/Operations Management, January 2004-December 2006
Server Security, Payment Processing, Data Recording
TiltWare LLC, software provider to FullTiltPoker.com, Los Angeles, CA, USA

His link was also posted by the insider in UB

Also employed by ieLogic was Annie Duke, Russ Hamilton and Phill Helmuth, of which at least Russ Hamilton is deeply involved in the scamming it seems

On July 09 2008 11:11 Catul wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 10:36 Fraser wrote:   On July 09 2008 08:47 Catul wrote: Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one. 2 totally seperate superuser scandals?? UB and AP aren't related? In that case can someone go over how this UB scandal started?? Yep, and the superusers accounts on UB date back to 2005, so way before AB bought them. Read the first post of http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=99247 for a summary of both of them, minus the recent developments.

Great summary, wow. I didnt even know about this UB scandal.

My bad Zorglub, sick.

On July 09 2008 11:46 Zorglub wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 10:22 Catul wrote:   On July 09 2008 09:23 Zorglub wrote: jesus this is so sick, it even has implacations to full tilt software, the same guy made it Same first name only. Not just same first name, look at Jack Bates credentials: http://www.tiltedplacitan.net/jack_resume_current.html "Sr. Software Engineer, October 2001-December 2003 Server Security and Performance ieLogic, Inc., software provider to UltimateBet.com, Portland, OR, USA" Sr. Software Engineer/Operations Management, January 2004-December 2006 Server Security, Payment Processing, Data Recording TiltWare LLC, software provider to FullTiltPoker.com, Los Angeles, CA, USA His link was also posted by the insider in UB Also employed by ieLogic was Annie Duke, Russ Hamilton and Phill Helmuth, of which at least Russ Hamilton is deeply involved in the scamming it seems

god damn it
i really really fucking hope that this isnt gonna end up with FTP having a super user

hrm it looks like that thread on 2+2 got deleted

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Mat Sklansky
Administrator

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: This just seems ridiculous to me
Posts: 3,051

deleted ub thread
I just received a call from someone pointing out that a bunch of personal info: phone numbers, addresses, etc. are in that thread.

The bulk of the thread will probably be returned once I can sort out the issues.

Lol, I wonder if Mr. Jack Bates ever got his master degree?

It wouldn't even surprise me if a good number of sites do side profits with some 'elite' members...
I hope at least PS can stay clean, along with a couple others...

Those scatterplots at 2p2 are pretty much all the proof I need.

On July 09 2008 12:26 Yugless wrote: hrm it looks like that thread on 2+2 got deleted

Yeah, I read about 10 pages and now it doesn't work.

On July 09 2008 12:40 mikeymoo wrote: Those scatterplots at 2p2 are pretty much all the proof I need.

Did u notice the one dot who was losing almost as much as the superuser was winning?? small sample maybe, but uhh, chipdumping??

On July 09 2008 12:30 Yugless wrote: Mat Sklansky Administrator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: This just seems ridiculous to me Posts: 3,051 deleted ub thread I just received a call from someone pointing out that a bunch of personal info: phone numbers, addresses, etc. are in that thread. The bulk of the thread will probably be returned once I can sort out the issues.

yeah i was pretty sure that would happen ;p almost wanted to save the image files

I'm still on the page and if I hit back/forward I can save the images if you want ggplz.

I have saved all the images for the same reason

maybe save all the transactions he posted if you still can

hahaha I thought about saving them too
I just knew someone else had already done it

so ftp IS rigged huh

if there was ever a dealer I hated in my poker lifetime, it's at FTP

glad I got to read that thread before it got deleted

On July 09 2008 13:18 Zorglub wrote: I have saved all the images for the same reason maybe save all the transactions he posted if you still can

I'll try.

good job w.r.t saving files
just hang onto them for now incase they're needed later i guess =D

one thing i didnt quite get though was why everyone thought the 55 in kid55's name was so significant? its deebs year of birth.. lots of people do e.g. monkeypopper89 he's just done the same heh
same goes for his email/msn...

Yesterday, i took the time to go through the entire thread BEFORE anything had been tampered with but regretfully didn't save the info. Anyone who has done so, which I'm sure someone has make sure you keep such information safe and or make it public again so it can be investigated by the poker community.

fuck I knew I should have saved it all but I just figured gameovernoob already had or someone else.............FUCK

so, a summary for those who weren't fast enough to read the 2+2 thread?

thread is back

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=237495&page=4

summary:

+ Show Spoiler +

ROFL

when i click the link in the op this comes up:
+ Show Spoiler +

Where is the original news?

lmao, http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=potripper&search_type=&aq=f



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21381022/

What info do you guys want me to save? I have a few of those transactions, but do you want screenies of pages 8-19? Most of the posts are just speculation, and not necessarily something I think I need to save.

EDIT: Oh, it's back. I'll see if they've edited anything.

On July 09 2008 15:37 SpoR wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21381022/

this is absolute poker and not UB
but anyway, that news article pisses me off
its written obv by a complete moron who uses the word 'hacked' as if its easily a possibility for other sites to have the same thing happen to them i.e. pokerstars

Since I'm not a member on 2+2 could someone send a PM to NoLimitLeagues or another trusted member and ask if any of these posts that have been "returned" are actually accurate, or if they've been changed.

On July 09 2008 15:36 ggplz wrote: thread is back http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=237495&page=4 summary: + Show Spoiler + ROFL

LOL @ summary

I'm reminded of Enron

Has anyone with a UB account tried transferring all of the known superuser accounts $1? Could be interesting.

UB should stand for "unreal bullshit" after this incident

On July 09 2008 15:37 SpoR wrote: Designed with the assistance of the best poker players in the world - Phil Hellmuth and Annie Duke – UltimateBet provides the best poker games available on the net.

I ROFL'ed at this.

On July 10 2008 10:49 hubmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 15:37 SpoR wrote: Designed with the assistance of the best poker players in the world - Phil Hellmuth and Annie Duke – UltimateBet provides the best poker games available on the net. I ROFL'ed at this.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

that thread is monsterous
i can barely keep up with the posts lol

Most casual players will never even hear about these incidents or will view them as just a blip on the radar. I don't know why people seem to forget that players have been trying to "break the bank" at casino's for years with all sorts of cheating methods. Same thing with mechanics in cash games. I really don't think that a large base of players are suddenly going to stop playing poker because there is a little bit of risk involved. The only thing that might happen is that casual customers will prefer to use sites not tainted by scandal, if they even hear about it.

I mean to me it seems like if you were a causal customer just loading up $100 and donking it off for fun then you'd see it this way "Hey they advertise on TV it must be legit", more or less. I really don't see them reading and picking through long forum posts on sites they've never heard of. I get really tired of hearing the gloom and doom attitude from people whenever something bad happens. Scandals exist in every type of business and company. The important thing is that the sites take action to remedy the situation and prevent future cheating. Over time people will migrate to the company that does this best.

Case and point: This week my Cardplayer magazine arrived and right inside the cover just like always there was a huge Absolute Poker advertisement. Next came Ultimate Bets full two pager. The casual players just do not care if they are playing for entertainment. The big focus for online poker is getting regulation in the U.S. and then opening up other markets. Yes deal with the scandals openly and honestly but don't cry wolf like online poker is somehow going to insta-die because people have tried to cheat and a few succeeded before they were caught, people try to cheat at everything in life why should poker be any different?

I've yet to read a poker mag
I can't stand them for some reason

For whoever wanted a summary, this was one I saw: This is NoLimitLeagues post (#197) in one of the locked threads with a summary: Summary of what has happened in the last 24 hours, related to UB SuperUsers: - Someone with a 2p2 username of brainwashdodo and no posts, claiming to be a current UB employee who worked closely in the investigation of NioNio and other superusers made this post on June 28th: Quote: I came to post today with the claim of no less than the so called "nionio" was manufactured by the current management of the company. Tomorrow or the day after, you will receive an extensive report from both KGC and UB/AP, on how the company was the victim the wrongdoing of the previous management, very similar to Annie’s statements. I only wanted to come out now, just to say a few words before these new founding’s and the additional refund process begins. Also to give you a hint how the company “found” the “additional accounts and data surrounding the unfair play”. I helped them. My posts will soon to follow these upcoming statements, please stand by, and I see you guys in a few days. -The report from UB was delayed, and he made it clear he didn’t want to leak the inside info until after the statement from UB. In the meantime he gives us a teaser by showing us a screenshot of NioNio’s account but doesn’t explain. 2p2ers figure out that UB wiped this info clean and the new info is a play money account that someone probably set up as a joke. However, I don’t think brainwashdodo realized this, as he was trying to trace the IP address of the NioNio play money account. -The statement from UB finally came out yesterday and stated they found 14 more superusers: Crackcorn55, GrabBag123, gravitation, Bgroup, H_Curtis, Twenty 1, WacoManiac, Broke_In_L_A, ShaqTack, BlueBerry101, 55WasHere, Xnomas, dannyboy55, Indy05. The truth is 2p2ers found these superusers and reported them to UB and UB is finally admitting it. They also admit it was going on since before the new ownership took over, the claim it started in 2005. -Soon after this release, brainwashdodo made 2 very long posts showing Transaction Audits for PhilHelmuth, kid55 (Freddy Deeb), and –Fred- (no one knows who this is, a third party said they talked to Freddy, and Freddy says this is an account used by mgmt.) -His 2 posts also contain 4 links to screenshots of an admin site used by UB employees. He shows the account info for kid55, mamamiya, buckskin, and ShaqTack -As I’m looking at ShaqTack’s screenshot I see that he had 5 different usernames and that 3 of them were on UB’s list (ShaqTack, slimpikins2, and broke_in_l_a) 2 of them were not on the list. (whakme and HolyMucker) I post a question asking why they aren’t on the list, within 5 minutes UB adds those 2 names to the list. More proof that UB is only admitting to the superusers that we find. It is also proof that the screenshots are real. It is also proof that brainwashdodo is really a UB employee. -People start looking into the screenshots. Here is what we found in the screenshots: -ShaqTack had 5 diff usernames and was closed on Feb 7th. (Acct disabled. Do not re-open. Any inquiries please forward to Paul/Nolan. Email sent Tkt# 8322074. VGonzalez/sec) Here is the actual confiscation, it looks like they confiscated $0.35 (Select Acct to Adjust:#, Select Adj Type: Withdrawl, Select Reason for Adj: FRAUD CONFISCATED. Adj Amt: 0.35 Notes: Balance was confiscated as per Nolan B. VGonzalez/sec) He never played a sng or tourn, his career rake was $4343.50 and blackjack wins of $453. Deposit Limit was LEVEL 3. His email was given GameSetMatch123@something.com; the name used was Dan Francis from Franklin AR, birthdate of 3-27-1957. No phone number listed but his address was. I can’t find any info on this person, most likely all fake info. There is a Daniel Francis pro from Australia, but very, very unlikely it is the same person. The account was created on 12-20-2005. -kid55 screenshot showed that brainwashdodo blocks out his UB username b4 he posts the screenshots, ShaqTack’s screenshot was cropped differently and didn’t show who he was Logged In as. It shows that the name on the acct is Kassem Deeb, gives his address, phone, dob, email, and initial IP address. Kassem is Freddy’s real name. I later find out that it is common knowledge that kid55 is Freddy Deeb’s main account on UB. It was created on June 1st 2003. His deposit and transfer limit is HIGH ROLLER. Never played a sng, tourney fees of $184 and rake revenue of $37,825.57. Played some BJ and broke even I think. He did 143 deposits for $2,314,335 and 138 withdrawls for $3,701,016, but claims to be a losing player on UB. Many people speculate this is because of transfers and payments for his sponsorship deal, makes sense to me. The ONLY thing suspicious on Freddy’s account is an amazing piece of information. On Feb 6th, 2007, 1 day before they suspended ShaqTack’s account, they suspended Freddy’s account (Acct disabled. Do not re-open. Any inquiries please forward to Paul/Nolen. SAraya/ub sec, Tkt #8313668.) As you can see, both accounts were closed with the exact same message, word for word. It is also noted that 3 of the superuser accts have ‘55’ in them. -bucksin screenshot shows the acct was created on feb 11th, 2003 by Lyle A. Berman, from Minnetonka, MN. Gives his address, phone, DOB, email, and initial IP address. His deposit and transfer limit are HIGH ROLLER. He has 3 deposits for $4,400 and 29 withdrawls for $555,000. Paid $51,692 in rake, $561 in sng fees, and $114.50 in tourney fees. It shows his acct is active with a cash balance and it shows that he was refunded $54,520 from the NioNio investigation. It also shows that someone typed “ty Paul, we trust you” in the comments about the refund. Some people have taken this to mean that the message is from Lyle. It sure looks like Lyle isn’t involved and in fact was ripped off by the superusers. One more interesting note from this screenshot is brainwashdodo had some other windows open, one has the info blacked out, one is cut off and you can only make out the first three letters, Dea. The other window says 6/1/2008 (I think he may have taken these screenshots a month ago) and it lists 5 names and no other info, Brits Man, -Fred-, Jack, buckskin, Fishtank. -mamamiya screenshot shows the acct was created on July 15th, 2006 I think, very blurry. The account name is hanan a deeb, this is most likely a relative of Freddy’s or an alias of his, no one has confirmed this, but some evidence linking him to this name has been found on the internet and is in one of these threads. The address is the same as the address on kid55’s acct. The phone # is similar but slightly different, DOB appears to be 1972, the email address is kdeeb####@something.com. No referrer. Deposit and Transfer Limit are HIGH ROLLER. About 26k in rake, 97 deposits for 197k, 43 withdrawls for 166k. On July 17th, 2006 in the Admin Comments it says: “one of Freddie Deeb’s accts.” There are a couple of windows open on the right hand side, one of them shows a date of 3/1/xxxx and the letters REA and Dea cut off. It appears he took this screenshot on March 1st, 2008. Someone reports that most people had multiple accts back in the day and that it was not frowned upon. -People also started investigating the transaction audits, since brainwashdodo decided not to connect any of the dots for us. It showed that Phil, Freddy, Lyle, and Russ Hamilton were doing a lot of big transfers between each other. -Most importantly the info in these transaction histories showed that -Fred- made a transaction to ShaqTack for $10,000. -It also showed that -Fred- had transactions with all the people mentioned above and many more. Here is an incomplete list of names that –Fred- transferred to: crosdsr, sluppy, wbchampion, HeadKase01, CUCA, peanuto, Jack, TRIPAS2003, buzz32, Devilfish (this one seems obv, lol), jumpshot, The bigchief, txfatman, -russh-, August17, KrazyKanuck, bad bowler, MrJones707, B_Affil_Test2, thunderkeller, VonSmak, whoisthisguy, Poppychullo, slug2, bmw750li, keneiniger, Treetopss, H B, morganraiders, bigmomw, shah 2007. I am not accusing any of these names on this list of any wrong doing. Just stating a fact. - "-Fred-", which seems to be nothing more than a station for distributing funds, with Russ Hamilton and perhaps others reimbursing it. econ does some more investigating: Quote: The -Fred- account is highly suspicious. The transaction history provided covers over a year (April 1, 2006-May 20, 2007). During this time, the user played a total of three single-table sessions on two different days. Meanwhile, $2,803,148 was transferred through the account (in absolute value). However, the net of all of the transfers was -$30,600 (I threw the transactions into excel). You may have noticed that there are many transfers involving either russ hamilton or russh that happen right around one or more transfers of equal value and opposite sign to other players. Why wouldn't Russ just transfer the money himself? The same is true to a lesser extent of player peanuto. -It also showed kid55 having an amazing stretch of 13-27 minute ring game sessions where he had an outrageous winrate. But it also shows a few losing sessions too. Overall I believe that there is evidence that shows kid55 is a losing player on UB. -The PhilHelmuth Transaction Audit doesn’t show much. It shows him getting beat pretty bad at a few ring games, shows he plays a lot of black jack tourneys, and a few sngs. It also showed that he was refunded $880 from the NioNio scandal. And it shows a bunch of transfers with the above mentioned accounts. I’m sure I forgot a lot or screwed up some of the info. Flame away. /end NoLimit's post Mark

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for anyone who's wanting cliff notes (ive read like every post in that thread rofl)

PS could someone who copied the screenies from the orig thread before they were deleted plz forward to me plz via PM? interested in taking another peak atm
ty

you are obsessive

first 100 posts of that thread were equiv to a gateway drug

gateway drugs are the best

esp when ur drunk

nom sayinn?