ub adds names to superuser,UNREAL - Page 3

Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger.
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raidern

On July 09 2008 07:33 lpblog wrote: Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger. -- raidern

yeah its a shame faggots like those give a bad name but this MUST go public and big to avoid shit like this happening in the future, its a price we must pay.

On July 09 2008 07:14 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?" deeb's reaction was retarded

completely wrong. I't seems deeb is involved/guilty but if u call a fatass fatass he'll get mad bc it's inappropriate and a real insult, whereas a skinny guy doesn't have to plead a case or take it literally.

When cops accuse ppl of crimes though that they can't readily prove they didn't commit , it's usually the guilty ones that don't make a big fuss/stay cool and the innocent onces that feel attacked and get angry

^ just depends on the person

this is a very messed up situation tho

if helmiuth is involved or deeb is online poker is in the shitter

Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one.

On July 09 2008 08:11 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 07:14 Baal wrote:   On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?" deeb's reaction was retarded completely wrong. I't seems deeb is involved/guilty but if u call a fatass fatass he'll get mad bc it's inappropriate and a real insult, whereas a skinny guy doesn't have to plead a case or take it literally. When cops accuse ppl of crimes though that they can't readily prove they didn't commit , it's usually the guilty ones that don't make a big fuss/stay cool and the innocent onces that feel attacked and get angry

What... you live in bizarro world or something.


If you call gay a man who is absolutely secure of his sexuality he wont mind ur attempt of insult, however if you call "gay" somebody who represses his homosexuality you are definitelly going to see some reaction in them.

Freedy Deeb's reaction was definitelly unnatural, he stopped the game angrily and asked for the floorman ffs... it was all acted and pathetic as u can see just seconds later he is doing gay shit with a rose with Sheikhan as nothing happened.

On July 09 2008 07:59 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 07:33 lpblog wrote: Fucked up. A pity that such a bad thing happened. Many people will think twice before putting their money on online poker sites. This shit only gets bigger and bigger. -- raidern yeah its a shame faggots like those give a bad name but this MUST go public and big to avoid shit like this happening in the future, its a price we must pay.

I do really wonder though that if this goes major public and all, if online poker will ever fully recover from the blow it got from it... I mean, I was already hoping Obama would make online poker in the US legal again (he was the only one that supposrted it in his election program)...

Might as well take all my money off online poker or what, shit barely even got started in it all...

jesus this is so sick, it even has implacations to full tilt software, the same guy made it

On July 09 2008 09:23 Zorglub wrote: jesus this is so sick, it even has implacations to full tilt software, the same guy made it

Same first name only.

I know I'm a low to midstakes grinder, but whats funny to me is even given all this I'd still play a cash game on ub way before ftp

of course given this fiasco I've cashed out everywhere except stars, leaving only 20 bucks on both AP and UB just encase I need an escape

On July 09 2008 08:47 Catul wrote: Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one.

2 totally seperate superuser scandals?? UB and AP aren't related?

In that case can someone go over how this UB scandal started??

just wow

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

ROFL

On July 09 2008 07:14 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?" deeb's reaction was retarded

lol i love this post. great analogy. the example about calling a closet homo a "fag" is better tho. they will get all pissed, but someone secure in his straightness will laugh off the insult

this is the deeb episode i think

ya Baals right on the mark there

On July 09 2008 10:36 Fraser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 08:47 Catul wrote: Day, your cliffnotes are for the absolute scandal, the UB is yet another one. 2 totally seperate superuser scandals?? UB and AP aren't related? In that case can someone go over how this UB scandal started??

Yep, and the superusers accounts on UB date back to 2005, so way before AB bought them.
Read the first post of http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=99247 for a summary of both of them, minus the recent developments.

how real are the chances that helmuth was involved in this? what are the circumstantial evidence?

i know i could read it myself but it's soooo long so i hope that someone who read it already could summarize it plz

On July 09 2008 10:22 Catul wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 09:23 Zorglub wrote: jesus this is so sick, it even has implacations to full tilt software, the same guy made it Same first name only.

Not just same first name, look at Jack Bates credentials:

http://www.tiltedplacitan.net/jack_resume_current.html


"Sr. Software Engineer, October 2001-December 2003
Server Security and Performance
ieLogic, Inc., software provider to UltimateBet.com, Portland, OR, USA"

Sr. Software Engineer/Operations Management, January 2004-December 2006
Server Security, Payment Processing, Data Recording
TiltWare LLC, software provider to FullTiltPoker.com, Los Angeles, CA, USA

His link was also posted by the insider in UB

Also employed by ieLogic was Annie Duke, Russ Hamilton and Phill Helmuth, of which at least Russ Hamilton is deeply involved in the scamming it seems