ub adds names to superuser,UNREAL - Page 2

Phil and Annie are probably in but there isnt solid proof yet... but it seems that Freddy Deeb and Russ Hamilton are fucked.

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

lol i tought about that too... i were like "no wonder why he went apeshit when he was jokingly accused of cheating"

maybe someone can update my cliff notes:

Past:
-players are suspicious about a player named "PotRipper" who won an enormous online tournament w/ some absurdly good call (particularly the last one where he called an allin with T high on the turn and held)
-one of the players requests a hand history from the tournament to review his own hands and to look at some hands PotRipper was involved in
-someone at absolutepoker accidentally provides a "super hand history" which includes ALL the hole cards of ALL players on ALL tables throughout the entire tournament AND has the IP addresses/e-mail of players and observers playing/observing all tables.
-it becomes clear that "PotRipper" has vision of his opponents cards. He open folds Kings in one hand when a player to act behind has aces. Moreover, he calls all sorts of hand with junk and minraises perfectly in weird situations.
-Upon further investigation, it is found that PotRipper cheated blatantly in all except for a handful of hands played when a certain observer is NOT observing his table.
-Upon further-er investigation, it is found that the observer is an ex-owner of absolutepoker and has access to some sort of "superuser" account which allows him to have vision of all players cards in real time. the observer gave PotRipper the info he needed to win.
-Upon further-est investigation, it is found that PotRipper and the ex-owner duo have been superusering their way to victory in several tournaments over the course of several weeks, taking ~1million from the online poker tournament community.
-The online community shits a collective brick and avoids absolutepoker completely.
-Suspicions of superusers on othersites occur. It's eventually found out that UltimateBet has superuser accounts and apparently there has been some superusering cheating-ness occurring in the high stakes cash games on ultimate bet!

Present: (i'm still a bit confused if any of this is incorrect)
-it turns out UltimateBet has released the IDs of ADDITIONAL OTHER accounts who had been involved in a cheating scandal since 2005.
-phil hellmuth and annie duke may have been involved, whereas freddie deeb and russ hamilton are certainly involved

Future:
-ultimatebet goes bankrupt?

is any of the stuff i posted incorrect?? i'll try to update if i'm wrong

On July 08 2008 23:29 traxamillion wrote: lol i guess deeb does go south

looks like where he'll be going he'll need to know how to go south.

god damnit

this is so bad for online poker

All looks correct, UltimateBet although should go bankrupt may not.
Freddy Deeb will certainly go to prison once he is accounted for being at one of these computers on one of these accounts. (Which not be as easily proven as you may think)

All in all, this is terrible for the poker community
Funny that I was woken up this afternoon by an Ultimatebet representative, guess their downward spiral has begun

I wouldn't mind reading the headlines "pro poker player found dead in his hotel room" aka freddy deeb. He is such a bad player too, fuck him

i dont think anybody will end up in jail sadly.

On your cliff notes its missing that Deeb and Russ were found out to be involved because there are several transactions from a "filter" account to many of the cheating accounts sent money to, and then that account "fred" sent money to Deeb and Russ, plus the whole 55 thing (Deeb's nick being Kid55, and 3 of the cheaters have 55s in them, also its his birthday and he has 55 in his MSN)

don't worry about them they'll just claim they were framed and will be ok

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something realllllllly fishy is going going down on that 2+2 forum.

I'm finished looking into it for now, but i happen to think people are being paid to add/take away info

noone is going to jail but makes you wonder when someone gets fed up and starts just marking hits for fractions of the amount of money being stolen.

On July 09 2008 00:46 GameOverNoob wrote: something realllllllly fishy is going going down on that 2+2 forum. I'm finished looking into it for now, but i happen to think people are being paid to add/take away info

Yes very fishy, now that particular thread is having database errors yet the rest of 2+2 threads are perfectly fine............

wat?

:O sick

=[

huge news but not good for poker

fuck ub.

On July 09 2008 04:03 EvilSky wrote: fuck ub.

go ps

Day[9] the potripper stuff happened on absolute and he did most of his cheating in high stakes cash games

Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho

On July 09 2008 06:47 Spitfiree wrote: Doubt Deeb did something like that.I mean if u remember the episode of HSP where the players accussed him of getting chips off the table while they were playing pissed him off so much i doubt he ll go against his principles to do that.Hellmuth on the other hand.... he s arrogant has too big self confidence and prolly would think noone d suspect him .... they might be both innocent tho

errr dude, you realize that if you call a fat guy "fatass" he will get angry while if u say the same thing to a skinny guy he will be like "lol wat?"

deeb's reaction was retarded