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Night2o1   United States. Jul 07 2008 19:02. Posts 483 | | |
Heya,
Looking for opinions on 2 or 3 of my biggest hands. I am trying to identify where I am going soooo wrong @ NL5. My NL2 6 max PTBB over 8.1k hands is 10.30 and my NL5 6max is -6.53 over 7000 hands.. So something isn't translating from NL2->NL5.
One Pair hands:
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Hand 2
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Am I overplaying my one pair hands? They seem to be a major leak... I dunno, just looking for advice!
Hand 4
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I know its a lot, but thanks for any comments~
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jase   Australia. Jul 07 2008 19:39. Posts 1180 | | |
1: I think more often than not this hand is either very strong or drawstrong, could be KQ/44 or even a combo diamond/straight draw, I think without a read folding tptk to this overshove is kinda difficult - especially at these stakes. While more often than not tptk is nuts at nl5 you do have to let it go sometimes.
2: Bet closer to 60c flop, after his justbiggerthanminraise raise I make it $4 straight up, probably a set, nl5 players aren't playing a bare spade draw this way and I think vs an unknown you have enough equity to get it in here, more often than not you're going to have the better hand, if he had a set or a bare spade draw here, it's just a cooler.
3: I'm pitching AQo oop to a fair-sized 3bet unless he's a maniac. Ask yourself what he's minraising on the flop here? I think you're dominated almost always (AA/AK) but (from what I've seen) it's sometimes KK trying to find out if you have an A or not (stupid, I know, but it's how they think). Just ask yourself when you face these stacksized decisions: What hands is he doing this with that I beat? What hands is he doing this with that beats me? How often is he beating me?
4: Preflop - in pos, I make it 55c-65c. If he was deepstacked too I'd flat his minraise but since he's not I like getting it in here, you have so many outs and you also have fold equity - standard shove, wp  |
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SemPeR   Canada. Jul 07 2008 20:40. Posts 1349 | | |
1: vill dependant. I think vs most of the wide limpers or w/e it's standard to get this in.
2: I 3bet flop harder.
3: I think having flatted his 3bet you probably play for stacks, but the board isn't incredibly drawy and it's unlikely he's on one having 3bet you. AK is really all you fear. 77. rofl T_T
And I think he's in position...so flatting the 3bet is looks fine.
4: Stack goez innnn. |
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Night2o1   United States. Jul 07 2008 20:44. Posts 483 | | |
Whoops, this was to Jase. Next post for semper
1. I think I should just fold in this spot.. it seems like this only happens (at these limits atleast) when they have a two pair or better. (he had KQ in this case). Or am I just becoming scared money 
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3. I think I will toss the AQ to 3bets for now.. seems 3bets are rare w/o an overpair or AK here.
/edit but then again he might still play for stacks with KK/QQ/JJ.. iunno
4. I thought this hand was good, ty.
Thanks for the thoughts man.
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Night2o1   United States. Jul 07 2008 21:02. Posts 483 | | |
Thank you too, SemPeR.
I will try and make a habit of 3betting bigger, what will this help me do though?
Things I can think of:
Help me get it in on a later street (if he just calls w/ a pair of 10's or what not)
Fold him if he only has one pair because he'll think I must have a vstrong hand
If he raises over that, it will tip me off that he has atleast two pair/a set
Am I thinkin right?
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Yaffie   United Kingdom. Jul 08 2008 04:05. Posts 320 | | |
i think i'm getting all these hands in at nl5.
i've played a lot of hands with the villain in hand 2. i think i could get away from his shove seeing as he's usually so passive.
stats - 42/3/1. wins 71% of hands at showdown |
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PplusAD   Germany. Jul 08 2008 05:48. Posts 2746 | | |
orb1$ is a very newb idot who probably read some newb articles on pokerstrategy.de and now thinks he has a clue ...
it hurts my eyes to see him even win a hand >-<
he sucks hardcore and is an arrogant looser calling me a fish and then declining my HU invitation 
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| PPlusAd: I guess i should have shoved ; Dusty: might work Dusty: i will look at the hand laterz | |
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Night2o1   United States. Jul 08 2008 07:32. Posts 483 | | |
Yah, I didn't like orb either if I recall (these hands w/ him were 2-3 weeks ago). I think I was more willing to get it in here because he did some super retarded crap and called off a whole stack with air earlier. Then he just made 2-3 sets or two pairs and I got raped.
I'm starting to wonder if my problem is calling OTHER people's all-ins. I understand there is quite a difference between calling the all in and shoving the all in.
Opinions?
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Yaffie   United Kingdom. Jul 08 2008 07:38. Posts 320 | | |
if you shove you have fold equity, if ur calling u have to think you're ahead or be pot commited |
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znb   Hungary. Jul 08 2008 14:54. Posts 331 | | |
| | On July 07 2008 21:02 Night2o1 wrote:
I will try and make a habit of 3betting bigger, what will this help me do though?
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make villain fold junk or not so good hands, like Ax below AJ/AQ small or medium pockets which hands can hit sets and so on
obv you can shove easier on the flop (even with air) cuz you showed strength preflop
you can easily float on the flop and buy the pot later if you didnt hit
dont be afraid to mix up your game |
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Night2o1   United States. Jul 08 2008 20:31. Posts 483 | | |
Thanks, znb, I didn't immediately realize how the larger 3bet avoids being setmined.
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SemPeR   Canada. Jul 08 2008 20:56. Posts 1349 | | |
A nice rule I picked up like last week for 3betting harder is "raise potsized" formula.
Pot is "x".
Opponent raises "c". This is how much you need to put in to call.
You raise to "x+2c".
I'm actually inbetween sites and haven't tried this. Seems like you'll be overbetting a fair bit, but it makes sense seeing as people do call with worse.
Srsly, some of those 2+2 basic articles are very useful just to give you some groundwork as standard tag plays that you can variate according to villains. Lots of info. Recommend for anyone starting out, would have cut down my grind a ton if I was just more thorough with my browsing.
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nixxxbg   Bulgaria. Jul 08 2008 22:42. Posts 181 | | |
hand1: def 3bet to a larger amount prf like $0.75 - $0.85 because u dont want 5 people on the flop
hand2: you have to make a decision when he minraises. If he's nitty and passive I might find a fold. Stacking off is fine tho.
hand3: you have to felt this after calling the 3bet prf. However, I don't like calling a 3bet with AQo until you have a reason to. You perceived his range as AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK? Whats your plan then?
Wins Ties Equity
70.71% 1.14% 71.85% ( JJ+ AKs AKo )
27.02% 1.14% 28.15% ( AQo )
hand 4: def 3bet bigger prf, make him pay with his garbology. On the flop its fine - you have the NUTZ!!!@!! |
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