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concrescence   United Kingdom. Jul 07 2008 08:30. Posts 12644 | | |
lol
always bet turn with an ace
i prob still fire QQ if he isnt folding ever which this guy probably isnt
as played wtf idk looks like a fold |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 07 2008 11:16. Posts 10320 | | |
if you check the turn then check the river and possibly fold |
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TimDawg   United States. Jul 07 2008 11:31. Posts 6019 | | |
what about bet/folding the turn myth? |
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asdf2000   United States. Jul 07 2008 11:35. Posts 4813 | | |
check/call turn, maybe check/call maybe/check fold river.
(so i guess myth said it)
bet/fold turn sucks IMO. this is a spot where he bluffs ever ychance he gets.
eh I guess it'd be ok vs a very weak opponent |
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asdf2000   United States. Jul 07 2008 11:37. Posts 4813 | | |
well, if he's decent at least
basically if u bet that turn at me and im villain i am raising like every time |
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TimDawg   United States. Jul 07 2008 12:24. Posts 6019 | | |
i disagree asdf, imo if we c/c turn c/whatever river, we look sooo much weaker and are more likely to induce bluffs from villain i think
and what can villain reasonable rep by raising the turn anyway? idk this is a really weird hand, i just think bet/folding the turn is the easiest way to play this |
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Fraser   Canada. Jul 07 2008 12:41. Posts 3485 | | |
just wondering what range are u guys putting him on? |
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asdf2000   United States. Jul 07 2008 12:44. Posts 4813 | | |
| | On July 07 2008 12:24 TimDawg wrote:
i disagree asdf, imo if we c/c turn c/whatever river, we look sooo much weaker and are more likely to induce bluffs from villain i think
and what can villain reasonable rep by raising the turn anyway? idk this is a really weird hand, i just think bet/folding the turn is the easiest way to play this |
kinda depends on ur style
i check/call Ax here for exactly that reason |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 07 2008 13:08. Posts 9724 | | |
people love floating Ax on these boards + A on turn makes it you lose value vs hands like 66-JJ
as played VB'ing river is ok, its very thin, your prob better off betting a gay amount where people make one of those "fuck it I call" plays, 80%+ of mid stakes players are more likley to call with a hand and get to showdown rather than turn it into a bluff |
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thnx for all the advices. it is also my feeling that betting the turn invites a lot of bluffs/semi-bluffs which i would probably also call a % of the time and consequently also call a % of his shoves with a A or straight or something.
i thought i would lose a lot value when i did not bet the river but from your comments im not so sure anymore. i agree its rare on this level to be bluff raised on such a board on the river with a hand that has showdown value. it wasnt a crazy match so i think it was an ok laydown, villain did turn out to be able to make some crazy plays though. but i didnt know that at the time. i have no idea how often gay amounts invite bluffs, ill give it a try in these situations.
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