100nl HU QQ

46/35/1.1 all HU stats
2nd or 3rd time i 3bet, i havent 3 bet much at all. on the turn i would check/bet a AK/AQ/AJ like 50/50 or 40/60 or something but villain doesnt know that. i was thinking he could conceivably have floated a ace for the straight and OC power. maybe he wants value from my ace holdings. or am i asking to be bluffed here?

easy fold?

Submitted by : piratematerial

PokerStars Game #18646132126: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/07/07 - 10:26:35 (ET)
Table 'Protogeneia' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: pokerhaasje ($102.70 in chips)
Seat 2: oowmaah ($120.40 in chips)
oowmaah: posts small blind $0.50
pokerhaasje : posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to pokerhaasje
oowmaah: raises $2 to $3
pokerhaasje : raises $7 to $10
oowmaah: calls $7

Flop (Pot : $20.00)

   
pokerhaasje : bets $14
oowmaah: calls $14

Turn (Pot : $48.00)

   
pokerhaasje : checks
oowmaah: checks

River (Pot : $48.00)

   
pokerhaasje : bets $30
oowmaah: raises $66.40 to $96.40 and is all-in

lol
always bet turn with an ace
i prob still fire QQ if he isnt folding ever which this guy probably isnt
as played wtf idk looks like a fold

if you check the turn then check the river and possibly fold

what about bet/folding the turn myth?

check/call turn, maybe check/call maybe/check fold river.
(so i guess myth said it)

bet/fold turn sucks IMO. this is a spot where he bluffs ever ychance he gets.


eh I guess it'd be ok vs a very weak opponent

well, if he's decent at least


basically if u bet that turn at me and im villain i am raising like every time

i disagree asdf, imo if we c/c turn c/whatever river, we look sooo much weaker and are more likely to induce bluffs from villain i think

and what can villain reasonable rep by raising the turn anyway? idk this is a really weird hand, i just think bet/folding the turn is the easiest way to play this

just wondering what range are u guys putting him on?

On July 07 2008 12:24 TimDawg wrote: i disagree asdf, imo if we c/c turn c/whatever river, we look sooo much weaker and are more likely to induce bluffs from villain i think and what can villain reasonable rep by raising the turn anyway? idk this is a really weird hand, i just think bet/folding the turn is the easiest way to play this

kinda depends on ur style




i check/call Ax here for exactly that reason

people love floating Ax on these boards + A on turn makes it you lose value vs hands like 66-JJ

as played VB'ing river is ok, its very thin, your prob better off betting a gay amount where people make one of those "fuck it I call" plays, 80%+ of mid stakes players are more likley to call with a hand and get to showdown rather than turn it into a bluff

thnx for all the advices. it is also my feeling that betting the turn invites a lot of bluffs/semi-bluffs which i would probably also call a % of the time and consequently also call a % of his shoves with a A or straight or something.

i thought i would lose a lot value when i did not bet the river but from your comments im not so sure anymore. i agree its rare on this level to be bluff raised on such a board on the river with a hand that has showdown value. it wasnt a crazy match so i think it was an ok laydown, villain did turn out to be able to make some crazy plays though. but i didnt know that at the time. i have no idea how often gay amounts invite bluffs, ill give it a try in these situations.