1010utg in nightly hundo

Submitted by : obender

PokerStars Game #18590938398: Tournament #93747271, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2008/07/05 - 00:09:13 (ET)
Table '93747271 47' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: DrumNBass (13140 in chips)
Seat 2: monroe444 (13551 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (37290 in chips)
Seat 4: bppa (26146 in chips)
Seat 6: daphishermen (42717 in chips)
Seat 7: oubeeva (21576 in chips)
Seat 8: netix (26115 in chips)
Seat 9: Dantès13 (25663 in chips)
DrumNBass: posts the ante 100
monroe444: posts the ante 100
Hero : posts the ante 100
bppa: posts the ante 100
daphishermen: posts the ante 100
oubeeva: posts the ante 100
netix: posts the ante 100
Dantès13: posts the ante 100
DrumNBass: posts small blind 500
monroe444: posts big blind 1000

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises 1750 to 2750
bppa: raises 4275 to 7025
daphishermen: folds
oubeeva: folds
netix: folds
Dantès13: folds
DrumNBass: folds
monroe444: folds
Hero : folds
Uncalled bet (4275) returned to bppa
bppa collected 7800 from pot
bppa: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot 7800 | Rake 0
Seat 1: DrumNBass (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: monroe444 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Hero folded before Flop
Seat 4: bppa collected (7800)
Seat 6: daphishermen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: oubeeva folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: netix folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dantès13 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i do

I dont know man Im not an elite player and actually Im kinda bad but I will like to comment and hopefully hear what good players have to say.

1st when you pick up TT on UTG whats your though process? I really dont like raising it and then folding to a re raise or a shove. If I raise this most of the time Im willing to call a shove unless I know the player who shoved is ultra nitty or I have a sick read

Also if you call, what read do you have on your opponent? can you out play him post flop? or do you feel uncomfortable playing out of position?

Im a tight player, and if I raise this I do it to at least 4x

so in short words, if I rather muck pf than raising and and folding to a re raise

but then again you have a pretty healthy stack size so folding and waiting for a better spot could be good


=.=

The SB & BB have ~14k chips and M's of less than 5

I would like to either take down the blinds or stack these shorties

What I don't want to do is play an allin pot with a bigstack who had no business entering the pot without a premium hand

Logically, what hands could he possibly reraise utg+1 given utg raise and shortstacks in blinds?

Most likely im either facing two overs or an over pair
- dont like my cumulative probability for winning this hand

No reason to risk playing a large pot OOP with my stack size

i agree with you. why make this post though? it seems fairly obvious to me unless you have a sick read.

actually I agree with your point now, but then you think since you raised UTG thats means strong, any of the blinds would shove over you?

lesson 1 in deep tournament play: snipe shortstakes

On July 05 2008 00:15 jmurdah wrote: i agree with you. why make this post though? it seems fairly obvious to me unless you have a sick read.

You are right. I should not have made this post. I am still a n00b & feel bad folding pocket pairs.

donjuako, lol, are you serious? You're hilarous! This is a definite fold.

and how the hell could you think of open folding 1010, lol you're a joke, donjuako.

raise/fold is fine here unless you have a read that he's tilting/insane/bad enough to 3b/call there with 77-99 or AT+

well I never said I was good, and I stated that in my post. Whats the forum made for? learning no? I was not giving advice I was stating my thought process, and I wanted opinions from good players. Why do you have to get offensive? geez

On July 05 2008 01:52 TT1 wrote: lesson 1 in deep tournament play: snipe shortstakes

raise/fold is fine here

and im not sure if the quoted post was a joke or something, but it actually brings up a decent learning point: a better strategy in deep tournament play is to target the middle stacks of like 15-20 bb.

im talking about when we're stealing, not when we have a legit hand like 1010.

reason being that shorties will be desperate and most of the time you raise and they ship in 8-10 bb, we're committed to calling... and big stacks are annoying and will just call too much since they have 20-40bb especially if we make it 2.5bb like we should. the middle stacks are comfortable enough where they dont need to make a move, and they dont have so many chips where calling with a dumb hand pf won't hurt their stack.

sort of a random thought but i figured it could be helpful to the way some newer tournament players think about late game situations

ya generally this is a raise fold situation, call against some stack sizes/ some players, but that's read dependant. DEFINITELY raise 1010 utg, it's a great hand..

it depends, ikd fold alot here

i like it. he knows you aren't opening utg weak, and he didn't bluff -shove, so i think he picked up a real hand there.

its almost as if he is trying to trick you into thinking you have FE if you shoved

ez fold imo unless ur reads are good