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SemPeR   Canada. Jul 03 2008 00:13. Posts 1330

I was wondering what kind of hands we're supposed to be playing/adjusting to as tables break down. Even if it's only for a short while/we find new tables after a few orbits, it might be useful to know how far to loosen up (vs raising every button 4handed..which could probably be profitable against certain players).

How do you guys adjust to certain kinds of players playing <6 shorthanded ? (ie, maximum value vs a maniac or nit playing too many hands when the table breaks)

The way I've always done it when it's 4-6handed is just assume utg is the co (5handed), and play as if I was sitting there. Reasonable range 9-handed is 10-12%, 20% area for 6-handed.


bigbb33   Canada. Jul 03 2008 01:45. Posts 3121

Stop thinking in terms of numbers and percentages and just in terms of exploiting people by either A) running them over or B) playing tons of postflop pots with position.

I just play like you said in the bottom of your post, if its 4 handed and I'm first to act then I'm in the CO and play with my usual CO range, except usually looser because people at 9max tables don't adjust and keep their old 9max ranges despite it being 4 handed.

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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Jul 03 2008 07:41. Posts 4710

Vs nits I just raise every button and like 50%+ of my COs , but I do that in normal 6max too.Vs competent people you'll have to think a bit for yourself and try to determine if you can play certain hands in a 0ev fashion or better.

2k is just a bunch of pizzas - Hansen Jr 

Fox   . Jul 03 2008 09:47. Posts 1267

You should try playing some heads up to learn how to play with marginal holdings that way if you ever get on a 3-4 player table you can learn how to open up and how to bet weaker hands for value.


[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 03 2008 09:58. Posts 9979

your preflop ranges should ALWAYS depend on the people at your table and how they perceive you now

when you have crazy aggromonkeys at your table who love to 3bet a ton, you should obviously tighten up
when you have solid TAG types at your table who think you are insane (for whatever reason), you should tighten up
when you have people in the blinds who either (a) fold their blinds a lot, or (b) defend their blinds by calling (not 3betting), then you should raise pretty much any 2 in the CO/BTN
when a regular seems to be tilting against you (for whatever reason), you need to tighten up

etc

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

gawdawaful   Canada. Jul 03 2008 13:52. Posts 5429

100/99/1 is a good strategy imo

Im only good at poker when I run good 

SemPeR   Canada. Jul 03 2008 14:04. Posts 1330


  On July 03 2008 01:45 bigbb33 wrote:
Stop thinking in terms of numbers and percentages and just in terms of exploiting people by either A) running them over or B) playing tons of postflop pots with position.



True. I just feel like against someone playing relatively tight, I might overadjust and raise any 2/become really exploitable. And when I tighten up I run into some spots I'm generally not comfortable with because you just naturally don't hit hands that you'll be playing for stacks with. Somewhere between "raising any 2" and "Nitring range", so I look for some limits/guidelines to follow with the stats to feel more comfortable.

I really do want to get some HU experience though. I know Stars I think is the best place for that because Party SnGs charge shitty fees. Don't know about FT. Any reccomendations?


Fox   . Jul 03 2008 14:41. Posts 1267


  On July 03 2008 13:52 gawdawaful wrote:
100/99/1 is a good strategy imo



1/1/99 far better.


Kilay   Netherlands. Jul 03 2008 17:15. Posts 762


  On July 03 2008 14:41 Fox wrote:
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1/1/99 far better.


I smell exploitability .

As for Semper, I don't really have an idea about the numbers, I can give you a tip though. Turn off your HUD sometime and play upto 4 tables max (if you aren't doing that already) and just try to get a bigger grasp on ranges. Like observe the table without the numbers, notice the guys who are nits and will always fold their blinds and you can almost raise with any 2 from in position and the donks that will calldown light to tighten up your ranges against. I think it helped me a lot and makes your game that much better... at least, it worked for me...

Germans should not be bluffed 

bongky   Peru. Jul 03 2008 18:48. Posts 1407


  On July 03 2008 09:58 [vital]Myth wrote:
your preflop ranges should ALWAYS depend on the people at your table and how they perceive you now





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thats all imo

dont u fkin limp my fkin blind 

 


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