In Position - PF limper(s) - range thoughts 6-max

This is a general question rather than specific to the hand below - that's just an example. When in position, with a hand you would open raise with, how do you react to a limper or limpers in front? Ignore them and raise with the same range anyway? Or tighten the range a little maybe folding the lower end and/or even raising with trash that's easy to get away from?

At the moment I'm raising my normal amount + limpers value when I have a hand in the higher end of my range and generally tend to be folding at the lower end.

This is an example of where I have been folding (pretty weak here but bear in mind this could be mid suited connectors etc). I am sure this is pretty bad (coming form FR where arguably it may not be quite so bad) but I am not sure of the best way to deal with this or how to regulate my range in this spot.

Any thoughts/ideas appreciated - please bear in mind this is an example - not really intended for comment just about this one hand.

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This assumes you don't have a poker genius limping in front just your normal limping spewtards.....maybe I'm answering my own question.....

Raisy daisy with everything that can make decent TP's or any2 if villians are in fit or fold mode. Limp behind small pairs and crap that plays good multiway if they don't like to fold stuff. Any two broadway and decent pairs are always a raise though.

Yeah sounds like you need to start limping behind with some hands like that A7s, where your hand wont have much value as a pair maker in a raised multiway pot, but can make nut hands(suited aces, good SCs, low PPs)

i get mad when i see limpers so i raise 5x bb if there are alot

i limp along. gogo button.

o god, you have suited ace slightly deep in position, either raise or call, anything but fold...
suited aces are better in limped pots cause you can stack lower flushes, whereas with a hand like 45s your better of almost always isolating because a 5 high flush in a 3-4 way pot is not the nuts

On July 02 2008 16:54 TT1 wrote: i get mad when i see limpers so i raise 5x bb if there are alot

This is similar to what I do when in the higher end of my range - it is the A7s type situation where I am not sure of the action.

I know this particular example was bad (dumb fold) - I really wanted to post a QTs or 76s type situation but couldn't find one quickly. I have no idea if there were other circumstances that made me fold as this hand as it was a week or so ago (doubt it probably just dumb) but I am glad I used it now as the raise Vs limp responses are interesting.

Seems to me after reading your responses that limp behind in most circumstances is the best option as an A or 7 on the flop could be expensive and stacking lower flushes is the best result so why not try to get there as cheaply as possible?

Thanks for your responses.

depends on who's limping, if they're super loose then i'd just open my range a little and raise anything with good high-card value

you're not looking to win a buyin with these hands, but you are looking to win a bet or two off of their shitty jack-rag kicker hands

On July 03 2008 07:29 PokerDoc88 wrote: jack-rag kicker hands

upper end of their range imo

On July 03 2008 07:29 PokerDoc88 wrote: depends on who's limping, if they're super loose then i'd just open my range a little and raise anything with good high-card value you're not looking to win a buyin with these hands, but you are looking to win a bet or two off of their shitty jack-rag kicker hands

Yep - agreed - maybe I should have qualified 'most'. In fact perhaps 'most' was wrong as quite a lot of these limpfish seem to be ridiculously loose. Was playing on a table last night with a guy to my right who, over 60-odd hands who was 95/1.6/0.8 - yes you are reading this right.....decisions were easy then