JJ on KK6 flop - nightly hundo

How do you play this hand on the flop?

I can't think of any way to get away from this hand. (Other than folding to the allin which I should have done)


If I lead and he calls, should I be able to get away from this hand?
If I check/call then what?

Maybe c/r smaller and fold?

Any thoughts are apreciated.

P.S. thanks iop for posting correct version of hand.

Submitted by : iop

PokerStars Game #18497108668: Tournament #93747267, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/06/30 - 21:49:26 (ET)
Table '93747267 51' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: caveman1960 (4513 in chips)
Seat 2: bobbyjong (2248 in chips)
Seat 3: ONEyouENVY (5825 in chips)
Seat 4: LifeLine27 (1670 in chips)
Seat 5: LetsGoMets 6 (3760 in chips)
Seat 6: tormos (2961 in chips)
Seat 7: Robbie26ca (4208 in chips)
Seat 8: chotra (2250 in chips)
Seat 9: Obender (2565 in chips)
Robbie26ca: posts small blind 50
chotra: posts big blind 100

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Obender
Obender : raises 200 to 300
caveman1960: folds
bobbyjong: folds
ONEyouENVY: folds
LifeLine27: folds
LetsGoMets 6: folds
tormos: calls 300
Robbie26ca: calls 250
chotra: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1,000.00)

   
Robbie26ca: checks
Obender : checks
tormos: bets 460
Robbie26ca: folds
Obender : raises 840 to 1300
tormos: raises 1361 to 2661 and is all-in
Obender : calls 965 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (396) returned to tormos
*** TURN *** ]
*** RIVER ***

Showdown
Obender : shows (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
tormos: shows (three of a kind, Kings)
tormos collected 5530 from pot

Summary
Total pot 5530 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 1: caveman1960 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bobbyjong folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ONEyouENVY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: LifeLine27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: LetsGoMets 6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tormos (button) showed and won (5530) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 7: Robbie26ca (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: chotra (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Obender showed and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks

i would lead half the pot and then make a decision if he raises, probably shove most turns if he calls

On July 01 2008 07:01 Yugless wrote: i would lead half the pot and then make a decision if he raises, probably shove most turns if he calls

leading flop is a must here for like 50-60% pot

shoving most turns if he calls doesn't really make any sense - not many people raise a king here online cause everyone sucks... a call usually means a king.. a raise usually means a draw

of course in the nightly 162 the skill level is a bit higher so this doesnt really apply



the biggest thing about this hand is that you have to lead the flop.. itll make most of your other decisions a lot easier. this specific hand is read-based which is annoying

gotta know how the opponent plays his big hands. I'd probably check/call flop and check fold turn tbh if hes been tight. I can't see him bluffing you when you check call with a shallow stack after raising utg

wtf people flat ak preflop 25bb deep?