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traxamillion   United States. Jun 29 2008 23:48. Posts 2564

I'm somewhat with crownroyal on this i play lower stakes and everytime i get action I'm not scared of a set/straight or w/e

loosen up and get some action.

That said I like the size of your bets the first 2 streets.

river is problems though

betting 6 dollars opposed to a bet more consistent with flop/turn like 8-12 is bad for a few reasons

you miss value with a smaller bet; I don't feel like a smaller bet expands his calling range while at the same time i don't feel a larger bet decreases it.

Your river bet will never be called by better only shoved on so it is in no way a blocker

You increase his river bluffing frequency which can be ok if you have history and want him to shove busted hearts or something (but since the jh is out i don't think he shows up often with busted hearts as often. he can't have that combodraw and probably doesn't flatcall Ax suited out of the blinds and if he did he'd prolly raise it earlier. that doesn't leave much).

With no history though you don't want to bet small and have him decide he is better off shoving than folding or calling.

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I call in this spot sometimes with certain history cause he is repping pretty much only j10 (1010 if hes tight pre?) but vs unknown here a bet/fold should be ok.

If I think he calls/floats/spews too much and can bluff then I might c/c



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Elastopete   . Jul 05 2008 06:11. Posts 3

If u are nto sure about your hand and dont want shove so check behind the river...


sawseech   Canada. Jul 05 2008 06:17. Posts 1763

uh i think he miss his frush

it needs more pods. 

failsafe   United States. Jul 05 2008 22:05. Posts 528

i absolutely agree with trax. you're getting laid pretty good odds to call here since you're only 100bb at the beginning of the hand. but it seems like you have an idea if his shovebluff-a-busted-draw : JT/TT frequency is higher than your 3:1 odds. gambol imo.

positive positivity 

ShaunR   United States. Jul 05 2008 22:13. Posts 520

Gotta call after that tilt inducing bet sizing on the river. Seriously that bet is like fucking his mother, such a huge chance he's going to just flip out.


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