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mrpav.com   Canada. Jun 27 2008 08:48. Posts 1982 | | | |
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Red9   Canada. Jun 27 2008 08:54. Posts 6686 | | |
set on river..why would u flat this...what was he calling on the flop with..a 6?
i say min raise |
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shove if he's tight, call if he's a monkey pf. |
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Python817   Canada. Jun 27 2008 10:55. Posts 2179 | | |
I think if he has a 6 here hes an idiot |
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Loco   Canada. Jun 27 2008 10:59. Posts 14569 | | |
I think I would probably just pussy call my way out of this one. |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jun 27 2008 11:45. Posts 2533 | | |
Well I think he has a lower set as often as he has a 6, and since he wont ever put you on a 6 you gotta raise here. |
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MysticJoey   Poland. Jun 27 2008 11:48. Posts 573 | | |
i see set on river here :< and ye i would shove, but i would also 3bet larger deep especially when he is calling light |
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p-halt   United States. Jun 27 2008 12:12. Posts 266 | | |
i think a shove, i dont expect him to ever check a st on the turn esp with 2 fd out there, imo u win this alot. if its vs donk, flatcall |
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locoo   Peru. Jun 27 2008 12:27. Posts 2611 | | | |
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TT1   Canada. Jun 27 2008 12:57. Posts 212 | | |
ez shove and ship it asaply, probably lower set or ak if hes a maniac
there might be the possibility of him thinking you were trying to steal it with a big bet on the flop because it looks pretty blank, then when he saw you checked the turn though u were weak or were bluffing with like aq aj it and bet his ace when it hit but that seems pretty ballsy |
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mrpav.com   Canada. Jun 27 2008 19:38. Posts 1982 | | |
| | On June 27 2008 12:57 TT1 wrote:
ez shove and ship it asaply, probably lower set or ak at best |
So shove would be best? I think %80 of the time they have a set here  |
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TT1   Canada. Jun 27 2008 19:59. Posts 212 | | |
yea pretty sure he has pocket 8's(most likely) or 7's here, anyways wat happened ? |
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Grass.nS)   United States. Jun 27 2008 20:11. Posts 266 | | | |
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Python817   Canada. Jun 27 2008 20:18. Posts 2179 | | |
| | On June 27 2008 19:59 TT1 wrote:
yea pretty sure he has pocket 8's(most likely) or 7's here, anyways wat happened ? |
theres no difference here between 7s or 6s in this hand and theres no difference between 4s / 5s / 8s if he can have one he can have the other
and ya you should shove, unless he has a read on the deck him have a 6 here is highly unlikely |
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TT1   Canada. Jun 27 2008 20:28. Posts 212 | | |
i know theres no difference but i dont see him calling 24 preflop with 5's or 4's but it could happen cus of his range, guessing the specific hand is more fun |
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Python817   Canada. Jun 27 2008 20:30. Posts 2179 | | |
I'm saying if he calls pf with 8s or 7s then he calls with any pocket pair |
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shaneomac   United States. Jun 28 2008 01:21. Posts 3650 | | |
| | On June 27 2008 20:30 Python817 wrote:
I'm saying if he calls pf with 8s or 7s then he calls with any pocket pair |
qft |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Jun 28 2008 02:16. Posts 5910 | | |
He tilts like no other, but I dont really have much thats constructive in this particular hand... he definitely calls any pp here pf given that its 2bi deep, hell he calls all pps even if it wasnt I think |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Jun 28 2008 02:29. Posts 8195 | | |
I think a small raise/fold is optimal if hes really dumb and spewy. If hes not just call. |
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BigRed0000   United States. Jun 28 2008 02:44. Posts 2596 | | |
its as simple as...
if you think he will call with worse, jam.
If you think he never calls with anything worse, call. |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Jun 28 2008 03:00. Posts 4678 | | |
| | On June 28 2008 02:44 BigRed0000 wrote:
its as simple as...
if you think he will call with worse, jam.
If you think he never calls with anything worse, call. |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Jun 28 2008 06:15. Posts 8195 | | |
Well its more like, if 50% of the hands he calls with are worse then shove. |
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blackice781   United States. Jul 11 2008 20:42. Posts 11 | | |
Horrible shove IMO Pav.
I think you're a decent player though  |
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blackice781   United States. Jul 11 2008 20:43. Posts 11 | | |
| | On June 28 2008 02:16 gawdawaful wrote:
He tilts like no other, but I dont really have much thats constructive in this particular hand... he definitely calls any pp here pf given that its 2bi deep, hell he calls all pps even if it wasnt I think |
Lol.
Where've you been lately gawdawful? |
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Baal   Mexico. Jul 11 2008 21:02. Posts 18771 | | |
He said he had a large PF range and being 200bb deep it might be even larger tbh i probably flat, against a tighty i shove |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Jul 12 2008 04:34. Posts 5910 | | |
| | On July 11 2008 20:43 blackice781 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 02:16 gawdawaful wrote:
He tilts like no other, but I dont really have much thats constructive in this particular hand... he definitely calls any pp here pf given that its 2bi deep, hell he calls all pps even if it wasnt I think |
Lol.
Where've you been lately gawdawful?
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At your moms house doing the macarena
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 12 2008 13:58. Posts 10708 | | |
| | On June 28 2008 06:15 SakiSaki wrote:
Well its more like, if 50% of the hands he calls with are worse then shove. |
thank you
glad somebody gets it |
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Baal   Mexico. Jul 12 2008 14:03. Posts 18771 | | |
| | On July 12 2008 13:58 [vital]Myth wrote:
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On June 28 2008 06:15 SakiSaki wrote:
Well its more like, if 50% of the hands he calls with are worse then shove. |
thank you
glad somebody gets it
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dont we all? |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 12 2008 14:06. Posts 10708 | | |
almost all of his pair+gutshot hands on the flop (like 86s) would check/raise and get it in, i would think. that's how most loose monkeys at these stakes play anyway
so he has 76ss, 76hh, 66, or a set or 2pair.
therefore, since he isn't bet/folding 2pair or a set, you need to be value shoving here.
unless he doesn't bet the river with 2pair or a set, in which case it's a fold
for anyone saying to flat-call...do you really think you're bluff-catching that often? because if you think he's bet/folding a set or 2pair i think you're insane |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 12 2008 14:10. Posts 10708 | | |
for anyone possibly still confused, if his range of hands that bets the river is...
(1a) 2pair, set, 6x, extremely rare bluff ... then we value shove
(1b) 2pair, set, 6x, extremely rare bluff **BUT** 2pair and set will bet/fold ... then we flat call (but i think this is extremely unlikely)
(2) 6x, extremely rare bluff ... then we fold
(3) 6x, 25%+ bluffs ... then we flat
(4) 2pair, set, 6x, and 25%+ bluffs ... then we value shove |
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Baal   Mexico. Jul 12 2008 14:31. Posts 18771 | | |
do u think he calls a shove with 2 pair? |
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Baal   Mexico. Jul 12 2008 14:32. Posts 18771 | | |
i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. |
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blackice781   United States. Jul 13 2008 06:25. Posts 11 | | |
| | On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote:
i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. |
whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish. |
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tloapc   Pitcairn. Jul 13 2008 06:41. Posts 1970 | | |
ya he's pro dontchaknow
I can tell just by his 6 posts he is retarded enough to have a 6 here so I'd just call
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went back through and didn't read Myths post til just now
it's not so much bluff catching imo as if I shove I'm only getting looked up by some stupid 6x hand and at best a set that he called with since we are deep that I'm sure he figures it's worth it oop
and this c/c on flop and lead on rvr line looks much more like 6x > bluff > set > two pair to me
just think the shove is thin is all - u could do it though
and no way could I fold, I'm to dumb for that |
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tloapc   Pitcairn. Jul 13 2008 06:44. Posts 1970 | | |
and btw, u didn't hit the set til rvr |
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blackice781   United States. Jul 16 2008 22:01. Posts 11 | | |
| | On July 13 2008 06:41 tloapc wrote:
ya he's pro dontchaknow
I can tell just by his 6 posts he is retarded enough to have a 6 here so I'd just call
*edit*
went back through and didn't read Myths post til just now
it's not so much bluff catching imo as if I shove I'm only getting looked up by some stupid 6x hand and at best a set that he called with since we are deep that I'm sure he figures it's worth it oop
and this c/c on flop and lead on rvr line looks much more like 6x > bluff > set > two pair to me
just think the shove is thin is all - u could do it though
and no way could I fold, I'm to dumb for that |
lmao whoever made posting a lot on a stupid forum a prerequisite for being good?
you're obviously an ignorant idiot. |
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Baal   Mexico. Jul 16 2008 22:13. Posts 18771 | | |
| | On July 13 2008 06:25 blackice781 wrote:
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On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote:
i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. |
whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish.
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HU? |
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vegable   United States. Jul 17 2008 05:02. Posts 1653 | | |
DING DING DING  |
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blackice781   United States. Jul 20 2008 10:39. Posts 11 | | |
| | On July 16 2008 22:13 Baal wrote:
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On July 13 2008 06:25 blackice781 wrote:
| | On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote:
i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. |
whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish.
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sure, name stakes and a time |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Jul 20 2008 10:49. Posts 6495 | | |
| | On July 13 2008 06:25 blackice781 wrote:
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On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote:
i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. |
whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish.
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Jul 20 2008 10:52. Posts 8195 | | | |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 20 2008 11:12. Posts 9942 | | |
| | On July 20 2008 10:39 blackice781 wrote:
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On July 16 2008 22:13 Baal wrote:
| | On July 13 2008 06:25 blackice781 wrote:
| | On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote:
i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. |
whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish.
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sure, name stakes and a time |
I'll refree the match for 10% of profits |
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PokerDoc88   Australia. Jul 20 2008 12:28. Posts 2903 | | |
lol who is this guy? lololol |
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PokerDoc88   Australia. Jul 20 2008 12:31. Posts 2903 | | |
btw i think i flat here unless there's any significant reason why you'd shove this river (ie. history/image). assuming you're in a vaccuum, you're obv never shoving as a bluff and i think any one with a brain could get away from 2pr/low set here. |
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