Shove or call? AA set on Turn 200BB deep

Shove or call? BLACKICE781 is 20/13/4. He calls way too many 3bets preflop with a large range of hands. Any who, were 200BB deep, so what would you do in my shoes?

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PokerStars Game #18416079831: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/06/27 - 11:11:34 (ET)
Table 'Bowell' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: MistTheFlop ($32.40 in chips)
Seat 3: metal_muts ($203 in chips)
Seat 4: BLACKICE781 ($396.60 in chips)
Seat 5: pappachips ($492.15 in chips)
Seat 6: ==PAV== ($408.60 in chips)
MistTheFlop: posts small blind $1
metal_muts: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to ==PAV==
BLACKICE781: raises $6 to $8
pappachips: folds
==PAV== : raises $16 to $24
MistTheFlop: folds
metal_muts: folds
BLACKICE781: calls $16

Flop (Pot : $51.00)

   
BLACKICE781: checks
==PAV== : bets $42
BLACKICE781: calls $42

Turn (Pot : $135.00)

   
BLACKICE781: checks
==PAV== : checks

River (Pot : $135.00)

   
BLACKICE781: bets $106
==PAV== : ?

set on river..why would u flat this...what was he calling on the flop with..a 6?
i say min raise

shove if he's tight, call if he's a monkey pf.

I think if he has a 6 here hes an idiot

I think I would probably just pussy call my way out of this one.

Well I think he has a lower set as often as he has a 6, and since he wont ever put you on a 6 you gotta raise here.

i see set on river here :< and ye i would shove, but i would also 3bet larger deep especially when he is calling light

i think a shove, i dont expect him to ever check a st on the turn esp with 2 fd out there, imo u win this alot. if its vs donk, flatcall

ship it

ez shove and ship it asaply, probably lower set or ak if hes a maniac

there might be the possibility of him thinking you were trying to steal it with a big bet on the flop because it looks pretty blank, then when he saw you checked the turn though u were weak or were bluffing with like aq aj it and bet his ace when it hit but that seems pretty ballsy

On June 27 2008 12:57 TT1 wrote: ez shove and ship it asaply, probably lower set or ak at best

So shove would be best? I think %80 of the time they have a set here

yea pretty sure he has pocket 8's(most likely) or 7's here, anyways wat happened ?

omg raise all-in

On June 27 2008 19:59 TT1 wrote: yea pretty sure he has pocket 8's(most likely) or 7's here, anyways wat happened ?

theres no difference here between 7s or 6s in this hand and theres no difference between 4s / 5s / 8s if he can have one he can have the other

and ya you should shove, unless he has a read on the deck him have a 6 here is highly unlikely

i know theres no difference but i dont see him calling 24 preflop with 5's or 4's but it could happen cus of his range, guessing the specific hand is more fun

I'm saying if he calls pf with 8s or 7s then he calls with any pocket pair

On June 27 2008 20:30 Python817 wrote: I'm saying if he calls pf with 8s or 7s then he calls with any pocket pair

qft

He tilts like no other, but I dont really have much thats constructive in this particular hand... he definitely calls any pp here pf given that its 2bi deep, hell he calls all pps even if it wasnt I think

I think a small raise/fold is optimal if hes really dumb and spewy. If hes not just call.

its as simple as...

if you think he will call with worse, jam.

If you think he never calls with anything worse, call.