Shove or call? AA set on Turn 200BB deep - Page 2

On June 28 2008 02:44 BigRed0000 wrote: its as simple as... if you think he will call with worse, jam. If you think he never calls with anything worse, call.

Well its more like, if 50% of the hands he calls with are worse then shove.

Horrible shove IMO Pav.

I think you're a decent player though

On June 28 2008 02:16 gawdawaful wrote: He tilts like no other, but I dont really have much thats constructive in this particular hand... he definitely calls any pp here pf given that its 2bi deep, hell he calls all pps even if it wasnt I think

Lol.

Where've you been lately gawdawful?

He said he had a large PF range and being 200bb deep it might be even larger tbh i probably flat, against a tighty i shove

On July 11 2008 20:43 blackice781 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2008 02:16 gawdawaful wrote: He tilts like no other, but I dont really have much thats constructive in this particular hand... he definitely calls any pp here pf given that its 2bi deep, hell he calls all pps even if it wasnt I think Lol. Where've you been lately gawdawful?

At your moms house doing the macarena

On June 28 2008 06:15 SakiSaki wrote: Well its more like, if 50% of the hands he calls with are worse then shove.

thank you

glad somebody gets it

On July 12 2008 13:58 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2008 06:15 SakiSaki wrote: Well its more like, if 50% of the hands he calls with are worse then shove. thank you glad somebody gets it

dont we all?

almost all of his pair+gutshot hands on the flop (like 86s) would check/raise and get it in, i would think. that's how most loose monkeys at these stakes play anyway

so he has 76ss, 76hh, 66, or a set or 2pair.

therefore, since he isn't bet/folding 2pair or a set, you need to be value shoving here.

unless he doesn't bet the river with 2pair or a set, in which case it's a fold

for anyone saying to flat-call...do you really think you're bluff-catching that often? because if you think he's bet/folding a set or 2pair i think you're insane

for anyone possibly still confused, if his range of hands that bets the river is...

(1a) 2pair, set, 6x, extremely rare bluff ... then we value shove
(1b) 2pair, set, 6x, extremely rare bluff **BUT** 2pair and set will bet/fold ... then we flat call (but i think this is extremely unlikely)
(2) 6x, extremely rare bluff ... then we fold
(3) 6x, 25%+ bluffs ... then we flat
(4) 2pair, set, 6x, and 25%+ bluffs ... then we value shove

do u think he calls a shove with 2 pair?

i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever.

On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote: i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever.

whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish.

ya he's pro dontchaknow

I can tell just by his 6 posts he is retarded enough to have a 6 here so I'd just call


*edit*
went back through and didn't read Myths post til just now

it's not so much bluff catching imo as if I shove I'm only getting looked up by some stupid 6x hand and at best a set that he called with since we are deep that I'm sure he figures it's worth it oop

and this c/c on flop and lead on rvr line looks much more like 6x > bluff > set > two pair to me
just think the shove is thin is all - u could do it though
and no way could I fold, I'm to dumb for that

and btw, u didn't hit the set til rvr

On July 13 2008 06:41 tloapc wrote: ya he's pro dontchaknow I can tell just by his 6 posts he is retarded enough to have a 6 here so I'd just call *edit* went back through and didn't read Myths post til just now it's not so much bluff catching imo as if I shove I'm only getting looked up by some stupid 6x hand and at best a set that he called with since we are deep that I'm sure he figures it's worth it oop and this c/c on flop and lead on rvr line looks much more like 6x > bluff > set > two pair to me just think the shove is thin is all - u could do it though and no way could I fold, I'm to dumb for that

lmao whoever made posting a lot on a stupid forum a prerequisite for being good?

you're obviously an ignorant idiot.

On July 13 2008 06:25 blackice781 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote: i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish.

HU?

DING DING DING

On July 16 2008 22:13 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2008 06:25 blackice781 wrote:   On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote: i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish. HU?

sure, name stakes and a time

On July 13 2008 06:25 blackice781 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2008 14:32 Baal wrote: i mean, i mean not to give much credit to fish but 2 pair of even a set its a bluff catcher since we not shoving worse for value ever. whoa, whoa, careful who you're calling a fish.

HU?