[25NL] tough spot deepstack vs super loose/agr

First, I would like to thank goodguysm, myth, and Semper for the feedback on the previous hand that I posted.

Here is a much trickier hand that I played yesterday. I posted it in the Hands section with the intention to provide some background in the SS forum, got some replies there which I agree with should I have had no reads on the villain. He was a 50/35/6/120, with 0/33/66 f/c/r to cbet tricky bad player and the sole reason I was siting on the table for nearly 2 hours. I tried to be aggressive in the beginning only to have my light 3-bets called and then c/r on flop, my double barrels bluff-reraised on turn, etc. I know, tighten up preflop and wait to get a real hand and value bet the shit out of him, but somehow almost everytime I did that he (unluckily) happened to fold preflop or on flop. My position on the table was such that I was oop 66% of the time, and every time I tried to steal the blinds light he was either BB or SB and cold calling me. Basically I couldn't steal or cbet with air, which made my range and my tag play way too obvious.

The reads I had on him were the following:

1) He doesn't slowplay and will 3-bet with sets
2) When he has a solid hand, he tends to value bet/ 3bet reasonably (2/3 to psb) on flop/turn, and usually bets 1/2 pot on river
3) He is not a solid player (tried to bluff out a pot-committed shortie, shoved preflop with 77 vs a tag (and won vs AK), showed his cards every time his bluff won him the hand)

My image was tight/agressive on early streets and passive/weak on later streets. He was to some extent positionally aware and to some extent adjusted to the table, so I had reasons to believe that he is aware of my image.

Here is the hand:

Submitted by : vat

PokerStars Game #18384953842: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/06/25 - 21:45:04 (ET)
Table 'Altair IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: FulTymAmatur ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($70.10 in chips)
Seat 4: davidabc2k2 ($7.95 in chips)
Seat 5: CoachThijs ($25.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($69.95 in chips)
FulTymAmatur: posts small blind $0.10
Hero : posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
davidabc2k2: calls $0.25
CoachThijs: folds
Villain: raises $0.75 to $1
FulTymAmatur: folds
Hero : calls $0.75
davidabc2k2: raises $0.75 to $1.75
Villain: calls $0.75
Hero : calls $0.75

Flop (Pot : $5.35)

   
Hero : checks
davidabc2k2: checks
Villain: bets $3
Hero : raises $3 to $6
davidabc2k2: folds
Villain: calls $3

Turn (Pot : $17.35)

   
Hero : checks
Villain: bets $9
Hero : calls $9

River (Pot : $35.35)

   
EquityEmpire joins the table at seat #1
Hero : checks
EquityEmpire is sitting out
Villain: bets $53.20 and is all-in
EquityEmpire has returned
Hero : ???

I really have troubles adjusting vs this kind of opponents. Against a loose weak player you raise lightly preflop to isolate and take it with c-bet. Against a loose/passive player you tighten up prefop and value bet. However super loose/agressive opponents put me on tilt. I can't steal, I can't 3-bet light, I can't c-bet with air, and strong hands happen rarely. Any tips on how to play them, and tips regarding the hand in general? Disclaimer: I am fairly new to poker, so any criticism on my thought process/play will be highly appreciated.

I had the same on one table last night except one step further - had 2 Very LAG guys one position off to my left (BB and UTG when I was on button). Almost every time I open raised in position I was called by both of them at best (even when one was UTG!) or 3bet by one of them - as a result I was having to lay down a good percentage of hands post flop (or marginal ones pre when 3bet). After about 20/30 mins I just started open limping hands I would normally open raise with in position e.g. connectors, K10s/Q10s etc and standard open raising with premium hands - obviously mixing it up a little as well.

It turned out ot be a pretty profitable if ugly way to play Vs these guys. When I limped they only ever raised with good hands, and when raising with premium hands I didn't care if they 3bet or called. Post flop they were easy to play because they would bet regardless of holding and if I stayed passive until I was "sure" I was ahead I minimized the damage and maximized value from it.

I'm not saying this is the best way to play - like you I would be interested to hear more experienced thoughts - but it worked last night for me in this situation.

If you're going to cr the flop I assume you haven't done it to him before as he is always going to call $3 in a $14 pot? I don't think that gives you much info - either CR more or C/C.
Turn - no problem there for me - controlling pot size against lunatic
River - if you've made it this far and you hit the A I would have to call + his line makes no sense to me - your perceived weakness may have pushed him to the shove but it is a dumb bet from him imo. What the hell are you going to get this far with? A fair % is going to be Ax. That's why these guys are profitable to play against imo - you just need to adapt a little - and put up with a bit of frustration!!

100% easy snapcall... very easy given your read "He doesn't slowplay" + he can actually be value betting worse

Thanks for the replies 4Kingell and TalentedTom. I have c/r him before and got him to fold, and I've seen him getting reraised when he had a set and he snap 3-bet vs a tag/passive, so for me it was basically like asking "do you have a set here/strong hand or not?". However I agree it was inconsistent with my "I don't want to play for stacks with low TPTK" line, and this results in an ugly "$3 in a $14 pot" situation. A c/c on flop would probably have been better with only a weak tptk.

As far as playing vs this kind of lags, I came to pretty much the same conclusion - limp more preflop with sc and low pp in position as oppose to raising them (although this guy was 50/35 so seeing many cheap flops wasn't an option). When you hit, you get paid, and being IP you have some control over the size of the pot. However, I am sure there has got to be a better way, although it might require much better reading/postflop skills than the ones I currently have. If someone more experienced cares to elaborate, I will be thankful.

very well thought out play. I was going to say flat the flop bet, but you've got all that worked out.

I think flatting is fine, but the hand might have played out differently had you done that; that david guy probably would have overcalled. Puts you in a shitty spot on the turn especially if he donks out after you (but before main vill) to find out where he's at.

The minraise here works pretty well because it doesn't bloat the pot as much.