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25NL: Flatcall AA pf from sb to keep donk in?


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guitarizt   . Jun 24 2008 03:16. Posts 37

Bigstack is a 60/0/0 donk. I thought about just flatting pf, but I got scared and decided to make a small raise just to build the pot.

Submitted by : guitarizt

PokerStars Game #18347606507: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/06/24 - 05:48:10 (ET)
Table 'McElroy' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: cinco55 ($125.35 in chips)
Seat 2: TaNgOSaN ($21.65 in chips)
Seat 3: SalsaEdje ($31.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($28.35 in chips)
Seat 5: HanzImGlueck ($15 in chips)
Seat 6: Fishershark ($23.75 in chips)
Hero : posts small blind $0.10
HanzImGlueck: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero AcAd
Fishershark: folds
cinco55: calls $0.25
TaNgOSaN: raises $0.75 to $1
SalsaEdje: folds
Hero : raises $1.75 to $2.75
HanzImGlueck: folds
cinco55: folds
TaNgOSaN: calls $1.75

Flop (Pot : $6.00)

   7c8h9c
Hero : bets $5
TaNgOSaN: folds
Uncalled bet ($5) returned to Hero
Hero collected $5.70 from pot
Hero : doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $6 | Rake $0.30
Board  7c8h9c
Seat 1: cinco55 folded before Flop
Seat 2: TaNgOSaN folded on the Flop
Seat 3: SalsaEdje (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hero (small blind) collected ($5.70)
Seat 5: HanzImGlueck (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Fishershark folded before Flop (didn't bet)


PplusAD   Germany. Jun 24 2008 03:49. Posts 3085

Raise bigger imo

the only time a flat with AA may be a good choice is when ure in position vs an agressive player.

but ure oop i raise to 3.25 here ( 3x pot + 1bb vs 1 raise is my standart size)

sick lifeLast edit: 24/06/2008 03:50

fenner   Australia. Jun 24 2008 04:34. Posts 1043

if hes a donk its probably better to raise higher because hes calling most of the time anyway


mdom   United States. Jun 24 2008 12:51. Posts 94

If you had position OR relative position, then flatcalling might be good. But here even if you do flatcall and the donk comes along, you're both out of position and have bad relative position, so if you c/r the cbettor then you blow away the fish, etc. the only way i'd flatcall in this spot is if fish was the type to call anything and then bet big with like any pair on flop/get in tons of shit ez. But he's passive so it's gonna be hard to get tons of money in postflop against him in this spot. So just raise it up to 4 or so preflop. Don't raise small unless you have 100% seen the donk cold call small 3bets but not big 3bets.


PoorUser    United States. Jun 24 2008 13:47. Posts 5708

yeah since your oop i think 3b pf is probably better...i mean if you call pf and then the fish probably comes along and a flop comes, hopefully tango bets and your pretty much check raising all flops so the fish is still looking at $4 when it gets back to him with little invested so you kinda need to get lucky too

maybe i would like it more if the fish had position on tango because then tango bets, the fish gets to act then it gets to you, so if he calls then you can c/r and its a real good situation for you...and if he folds oh well i guess

Moneys gotta go in here 

SemPeR   Canada. Jun 24 2008 20:00. Posts 1372

I'd just bet. 4.99 ftw. Even oop.....it's 25nl. Just bet. o.O


Sheitan   Canada. Jun 24 2008 21:53. Posts 3710

Yeah don't be shy against stations and bet strong, it's better than trying to be tricky, just bet strong when you have the goods and see them calling with marginal hands and suck out on you on the river !

NeillyAA: theres no way in hell im going to spend 1 second on anything below nl200 for now on , therefore aggressive shots. 

SemPeR   Canada. Jun 24 2008 23:19. Posts 1372


  On June 24 2008 21:53 Sheitan wrote:
Yeah don't be shy against stations and bet strong, it's better than trying to be tricky, just bet strong when you have the goods and see them calling with marginal hands and suck out on you on the river !



I prefer to shove over his cmr-cmr on the turn and suck out set over set with a 3rd ace on the river. >.>


Exhilarate   United States. Jun 25 2008 00:43. Posts 1956

if u want donks to suck u out for a cheap price thats fine, but u shouldnt be tricky at these limits and should just 3bet pre

Get rich or become a bum trying. 

 




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