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25NL: Flatcall AA pf from sb to keep donk in?

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guitarizt   . Jun 24 2008 04:16. Posts 39

Bigstack is a 60/0/0 donk. I thought about just flatting pf, but I got scared and decided to make a small raise just to build the pot.

Submitted by : guitarizt

PokerStars Game #18347606507: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/06/24 - 05:48:10 (ET)
Table 'McElroy' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: cinco55 ($125.35 in chips)
Seat 2: TaNgOSaN ($21.65 in chips)
Seat 3: SalsaEdje ($31.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($28.35 in chips)
Seat 5: HanzImGlueck ($15 in chips)
Seat 6: Fishershark ($23.75 in chips)
Hero : posts small blind $0.10
HanzImGlueck: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero AcAd
Fishershark: folds
cinco55: calls $0.25
TaNgOSaN: raises $0.75 to $1
SalsaEdje: folds
Hero : raises $1.75 to $2.75
HanzImGlueck: folds
cinco55: folds
TaNgOSaN: calls $1.75

Flop (Pot : $6.00)

   7c8h9c
Hero : bets $5
TaNgOSaN: folds
Uncalled bet ($5) returned to Hero
Hero collected $5.70 from pot
Hero : doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $6 | Rake $0.30
Board  7c8h9c
Seat 1: cinco55 folded before Flop
Seat 2: TaNgOSaN folded on the Flop
Seat 3: SalsaEdje (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hero (small blind) collected ($5.70)
Seat 5: HanzImGlueck (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Fishershark folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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PplusAD   Germany. Jun 24 2008 04:49. Posts 7182

Raise bigger imo

the only time a flat with AA may be a good choice is when ure in position vs an agressive player.

but ure oop i raise to 3.25 here ( 3x pot + 1bb vs 1 raise is my standart size)

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 24/06/2008 04:50

fenner   Australia. Jun 24 2008 05:34. Posts 2188

if hes a donk its probably better to raise higher because hes calling most of the time anyway


mdom   United States. Jun 24 2008 13:51. Posts 94

If you had position OR relative position, then flatcalling might be good. But here even if you do flatcall and the donk comes along, you're both out of position and have bad relative position, so if you c/r the cbettor then you blow away the fish, etc. the only way i'd flatcall in this spot is if fish was the type to call anything and then bet big with like any pair on flop/get in tons of shit ez. But he's passive so it's gonna be hard to get tons of money in postflop against him in this spot. So just raise it up to 4 or so preflop. Don't raise small unless you have 100% seen the donk cold call small 3bets but not big 3bets.


PoorUser    United States. Jun 24 2008 14:47. Posts 7472

yeah since your oop i think 3b pf is probably better...i mean if you call pf and then the fish probably comes along and a flop comes, hopefully tango bets and your pretty much check raising all flops so the fish is still looking at $4 when it gets back to him with little invested so you kinda need to get lucky too

maybe i would like it more if the fish had position on tango because then tango bets, the fish gets to act then it gets to you, so if he calls then you can c/r and its a real good situation for you...and if he folds oh well i guess

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SemPeR   Canada. Jun 24 2008 21:00. Posts 2288

I'd just bet. 4.99 ftw. Even oop.....it's 25nl. Just bet. o.O


Sheitan   Canada. Jun 24 2008 22:53. Posts 4217

Yeah don't be shy against stations and bet strong, it's better than trying to be tricky, just bet strong when you have the goods and see them calling with marginal hands and suck out on you on the river !

Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt  

SemPeR   Canada. Jun 25 2008 00:19. Posts 2288


  On June 24 2008 21:53 Sheitan wrote:
Yeah don't be shy against stations and bet strong, it's better than trying to be tricky, just bet strong when you have the goods and see them calling with marginal hands and suck out on you on the river !



I prefer to shove over his cmr-cmr on the turn and suck out set over set with a 3rd ace on the river. >.>


Exhilarate   United States. Jun 25 2008 01:43. Posts 5453

if u want donks to suck u out for a cheap price thats fine, but u shouldnt be tricky at these limits and should just 3bet pre


 



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