[NL50] correct play???

Submitted by : 21drful

Full Tilt Poker Game #6936201383: Table Port (deep) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:39:37 ET - 2008/06/23
Seat 1: Liberty_East ($88.30)
Seat 2: ZeBeSt7R ($76.85)
Seat 3: fflw ($50.75)
Seat 4: nwalden ($82.80)
Seat 5: juedelman ($20.15)
Seat 6: YouAintKnow ($41.10)
Seat 7: LoLinHuay ($49.25)
Seat 8: Bklyn2Vegas ($41.05)
Seat 9: Dr GameTheory ($133.65), is sitting out
Bklyn2Vegas posts the small blind of $0.25
Liberty_East posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #7

Holecards
Dealt to Liberty_East
ZeBeSt7R calls $0.50
fflw folds
nwalden folds
juedelman folds
YouAintKnow raises to $1.50
LoLinHuay folds
Bklyn2Vegas folds
Liberty_East calls $1
ZeBeSt7R calls $1

Flop (Pot : $4.75)

   
Liberty_East checks
ZeBeSt7R checks
YouAintKnow bets $4.50
Liberty_East calls $4.50
ZeBeSt7R folds

Turn (Pot : $13.75)

   
Liberty_East checks
YouAintKnow has 15 seconds left to act
YouAintKnow bets $10.50
Liberty_East raises to $82.30, and is all in
YouAintKnow folds
Uncalled bet of $71.80 returned to Liberty_East
Liberty_East mucks
Liberty_East wins the pot ($33.05)

Summary
Total pot $34.75 | Rake $1.70
Board:  
Seat 1: Liberty_East (big blind) collected ($33.05), mucked
Seat 2: ZeBeSt7R folded on the Flop
Seat 3: fflw didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: nwalden didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: juedelman didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: YouAintKnow folded on the Turn
Seat 7: LoLinHuay (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Bklyn2Vegas (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Dr GameTheory is sitting out

hmm being a 50nler myself i dont like this play at all, i dont see any point in checking flop, i deffinatly dont like cold calling there either. you need to raise esp if he has anything he has decent odds to beat you. turn play is ok, although i dont see much value in shoving, either he is gonna fold with nothing, or he has made a straight, esp if he is lag he coulda bet and hit a draw.

okay thanks mate i appreciate it

fold pf, bet ~pot flop (or check/raise flop if he is cbeting tons)

On June 23 2008 01:08 ciachooooo wrote: fold pf, bet ~pot flop (or check/raise flop if he is cbeting tons)

QFT!

go through why you're doing what in your head and a lot of your plays might make more sense.

The overshove is just such a bad idea. You put yourself in a spot to only get called by the 1/100 (okay, maybe 20) retards with Jx, or stuff that actually beats you.

that hand is not worth playing fold pre flop

On June 23 2008 05:59 Darki wrote: that hand is not worth playing fold pre flop

#2

what

i like this play on all streets, are you guys serious?

preflop is very standard against insanely loose/aggro geeks
flop is very standard against insanely loose/aggro geeks
turn is also very standard against insanely loose/aggro geeks. you can debate making a smaller turn raise but it's only like 25 more to the villain so just get it in so that he calls with all his QJ KJ etc

On June 23 2008 09:57 [vital]Myth wrote: turn is also very standard against insanely loose/aggro geeks.

thought this was much deeper...and he's not even fullstacked T_T. I still don't like overshoving, but considering the stacksizes it really doesn't matter now.
If he had like 40, even 30 behind, I'd raise to make it look like I'm giving myself room to fold.
Most LAGs at this stake are pretty abc with their aggression, if that's possible. They give a bit more credit when people shove back, assuming their image makes the fold +EV, and a lot of the time it does?