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Won a WSOPE ticket, now wtf I'm gonna do with it


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Misjka   Netherlands. Jun 19 2008 08:53. Posts 121

WARNING: pretty long post that may easily create scam suspection and thus may get responses like 'boah, scam' and the usual epic-fail replies, especially because its a ticket-with-reduction offer from someone with hardly any posts. However I would be pleased if you at least read carefully before replying.

Ok, here's the thing:
I'm a low stakes poker player, playing mainly on Betfair poker, mostly grinding my way op in 100NL cashgames currently. I've been lurking here for a while, but am mainly posting on a Dutch poker website (www.pokercollege.nl).

A while ago, in a Raketherake freeroll, I won a ticket to a $525+25 satellite for a WSOPEurope package. Notwithstanding my lack of tournament skills, I happened to win that satellite, suddenly leaving me with a $24k package, including a $20,700 ticket for the WSOPE2008 main event (its £10,000+fee buy-in, which they fix at $20,700 exchangerate wise). Its the tournament that Annette_15 shipped last year and will take place around mid September, although Harrah's London and Betfair haven't decided yet about the exact dates.

But, and I guess you can feel this coming, I won't be able to participate. Poker is plainly not my source of income. I work, after graduating a year ago, currently at a UN organization in Geneva, Switzerland, and will be sent off to the Fiji Islands in the Pacific in a couple of weeks, to run a project there, for a really good salary. For me, both career and travel wise, its a big chance. This project will run at least until September, and around the WSOPE, it will be in a pretty crucial fase. Second, since I am only a 100NL grinder, with hardly any live tournament experience, $20,700 is a HUGE sum of money to me, and furthermore, I'm pretty sure I have no edge at all in this big event. Plain and simple, the actual cash value of the ticket is currently far more valuable for me than taking a shot in a tournament with probably a pretty tough field, for which I do not actually have time anyway.

Now, the first natural thing to do in this event was to ask Betfair poker for a cash alternative (like Pokerstars does standardly with some of their WSOP ME tickets). However, since Betfair is sponsoring the WSOPE, they are committed to sending a certain number of players, and in their terms and conditions, they make clear they are in a position to refuse cash alternatives. However, they allowed me to sell my ticket to someone else.

Now, everyone can see where this is going to:
I'm looking for a buyer for my ticket and since I've been long enough around in lurking this website, I am pretty sure there are some people around here that are willing to play this tournament:

Of course, I'm not stupid, so here are a couple of important things:
1. To make the deal interesting, of course I will offer a reasonable reduction. I understand that for this to be of any interest to anyone, a discount is necessary. Therefore, I am willing to negotiate fairly about a significant reduction. Its not that I would like to sell it for a couple of bucks however, then I'd rather donate it to someone I know well. However, if you are interested in giving a reasonable price, I would much prefer that.

2. I'm fully aware of scams going on in offers like this and want to do everything possible to avoid this and guarantee safety. I read about scams on similar offers regarding WSOP ME tickets and understand that this may look completely the same. The fact of me going to Fiji doesn't really help in it, I fully understand, as does my extremely limited post count. I really expect a lot of trashy reactions on this post, but hey, say for a minute you believe this is not a scam, what would be your solution in my position?

3. Therefore, in case someone is interested, I advise fully to take all kinds of safety measures: for instance you can contact Betfair independently of me, ask whether I have indeed won this ticket and whether it is indeed possible that I sell it to you. Sharing my previous e-mail contact with Betfair with you is also completely obvious.
Furthermore, say, hypothetically, we come to a deal, I fully agree if the funds are kept by a party that both of us trust until you, as a buyer, are absolutely certain that you are not scammed. I know this site is made up of a pretty close and trustworthy community, and I'm sure someone could be found who could, for some interest, keep the money until safety is guaranteed. Hell, if you are serious about this and if you have some credibility here in the community, I dont even mind being paid only after you played the tournament. Simply said, I want to do everything possible to keep this a safe business, and still making some good money out of this.

Maybe nobody here is interested at all in this. No problem, then I will continue to look for someone else. Maybe you are interested or do have another proposal. I'm willing to be flexible a lot, my plain purpose is to sell this ticket. Of course, I'm willing to provide all kind of contact details, account names, but naturally, through PM or other ways of contact.

Thanks for reading, although I expect to see a lot of non-serious posts.....

 Last edit: 19/06/2008 08:54

rogier   Netherlands. Jun 19 2008 09:01. Posts 1172

so you're basically offering a ticket and you're willing to let some trustworthy guy hold it ,or receive the funds after the event is over.
doesn't really sound like a scam

anyways, how do you expect this to work? By straight up auctioning (kinda like ebay) or..?


Twisted    Netherlands. Jun 19 2008 09:04. Posts 6942

The fact that you put it up this way shouldn't incite a lot of negative posts. Hope you get a buyer!


nicksson   Sweden. Jun 19 2008 09:08. Posts 3844

do you have anyone that vouch for you


concrescence   United Kingdom. Jun 19 2008 09:21. Posts 12644

gl


Misjka   Netherlands. Jun 19 2008 09:32. Posts 121

@rogier, yeah, well I did my best to appear at least a bit trustworthy, because, as Nicksson asks, I'm afraid I dont really have anyone for me to vouch. Dont know any highstakers really. I'm not really active in the pokerworld, just an anonymous grinder who enjoys the game and likes making money.

On your question about the price, the way I think works best is just to get in contact with someone interested so we can negotiate through e-mail/phone/whatever. I have a minimum in my mind under which I don't want to sell it, but I kinda lose negotiation power in displaying that here


alphablend   United States. Jun 19 2008 10:25. Posts 2424

Well, if no one else takes it I would be willing to take it as a stake I can be in Vegas in a few hours from where Im at.


Roald   Aventura. Jun 19 2008 10:38. Posts 2191


  On June 19 2008 10:25 alphablend wrote:
Well, if no one else takes it I would be willing to take it as a stake I can be in Vegas in a few hours from where Im at.



lol yeah and when you get to Vegas I want to see the look on your face when you realize that YOU'RE IN THE WRONG FUCKING COUNTRY

I use graphs and charts to bloat my ego 

Misjka   Netherlands. Jun 19 2008 10:38. Posts 121


  On June 19 2008 10:25 alphablend wrote:
Well, if no one else takes it I would be willing to take it as a stake I can be in Vegas in a few hours from where Im at.



Mind you, its a wsopEurope ticket, the London event, so no Vegas

Heh, Roald beat me to it

 Last edit: 19/06/2008 10:40

Feiticeira   United Kingdom. Jun 19 2008 10:51. Posts 2443


  On June 19 2008 10:38 Roald wrote:
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lol yeah and when you get to Vegas I want to see the look on your face when you realize that YOU'RE IN THE WRONG FUCKING COUNTRY


LOLHILARITY

baal has absolutely 0 clue and really should not be discussing things he obviously knows nothing about - mig 

Subaru   United States. Jun 19 2008 11:08. Posts 2025

ROFL

Was LP name God 

p-halt   United States. Jun 19 2008 11:18. Posts 206

lol


Roald   Aventura. Jun 19 2008 11:52. Posts 2191

Wasn't trying to threadjack. Probably the only way you'll be able to sell it is if you get Betfair involved in the sale. People would probably want support to handle the entire thing. It might be more +EV to stake somebody though if nobody wants to buy.

I use graphs and charts to bloat my ego 

Twisted    Netherlands. Jun 19 2008 12:12. Posts 6942

I think staking a high profile player on this website to go would be best if you don't get to sell it. Just make a good staking deal of you getting the money back + 50% winnings or so.


kemo   Denmark. Jun 19 2008 12:13. Posts 368

Yeah Roald's right. You should probaly just stake me since I live in Europe and therefore I know all the tells that Euro players have. Don't mind the fact that I'm a microstakes grinder and have no experince in big tournaments.

yarh 

Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 19 2008 12:33. Posts 6161

what % of facevalue would u consider selling for op? for like 80%-ish i might be interested and am open to negotiation

in order to move higher and shine brighter you use other mens dreams as stepping stones 

Misjka   Netherlands. Jun 19 2008 12:49. Posts 121

Ket, see PM

To Twisted and Roald: yeah, a staking deal is indeed another option that I thought about. Can definitely be +EV. Thanks for thinking along!


Sheitan   Canada. Jun 19 2008 12:54. Posts 3254



Someone had to say it ldo, good luck tho and you sound legit


Loco   Canada. Jun 19 2008 13:32. Posts 14370


  On June 19 2008 10:25 alphablend wrote:
Well, if no one else takes it I would be willing to take it as a stake I can be in Vegas in a few hours from where Im at.



LOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

tho 25nl with 250 roll is stupid tho started with 50 2 day ago ..i stick 10nl sometimes get bored and give 25nl shot but noone gives respct since i have very aggro hydralist icon - wolfheart 

SemPeR   Canada. Jun 19 2008 15:31. Posts 1349


  On June 19 2008 10:38 Roald wrote:
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lol yeah and when you get to Vegas I want to see the look on your face when you realize that YOU'RE IN THE WRONG FUCKING COUNTRY

looolz


 



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