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spets1   Australia. Jun 19 2008 04:58. Posts 613

So since now people had time using PT3. What do u guys reckon is it worth it, or is PT2 doign good enough job?

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nolan   United States. Jun 19 2008 04:59. Posts 4009

PT3 is garbage.

DO NOT GET IT YET.

hopefully they patch it up, but as of right now it's a heaping pile of shit imo.

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Baal   Mexico. Jun 19 2008 05:02. Posts 18742


  On June 19 2008 04:59 nolan wrote:
PT3 is garbage.

DO NOT GET IT YET.

hopefully they patch it up, but as of right now it's a heaping pile of shit imo.



what in gods name are you talking about?!?! i havent had a single problem with PT3 at all, and its like 10x faster than PT2 and much better overall.. the only negative side is that they should five a FAQ to configure the HUD which can take u a while to figure out how to set it up as u want.

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concrescence   United Kingdom. Jun 19 2008 05:21. Posts 12646

agree with nolan


kimseongchan   United States. Jun 19 2008 05:54. Posts 2085

I like PT3 except when the HUD occasionally stops displaying stats or freezes

whatever it takes. 

AcroN   Norway. Jun 19 2008 06:08. Posts 413

PT3 sucks. It felt slow as hell, and the HUD was garbage compared to the PAHUD setup you could make on PT2.


Fox   . Jun 19 2008 06:19. Posts 1613

pt3 is fine.

it crashes more then pt2 did but i prefer it's interface.


Stygg   Sweden. Jun 19 2008 06:20. Posts 1625

pt3 is ok but still needs patching. crashes a bit too often and i really think it has missed to import a few hands for me and i dont know how to retrieve it.

pt2 was pretty stable but it was way too slow in every department


Baal   Mexico. Jun 19 2008 06:39. Posts 18742

Weird, it has crashed on me once and i have a 600k+ hand database so im really pushing it, agreed that the HUD should improve and im sure it will in the next version, but im still wondering why nolan and ggplz say it sucks, care to elaborate?


I imported 600k hands at a very good speed (less than 1h of importing) and in PT2 trying to import something like 50k hands at once would take over 1h and it would crash.

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concrescence   United Kingdom. Jun 19 2008 06:42. Posts 12646

does anyone elses PT3 layout fuck up whenever they resize the window while viewing the 'general' tab?

@Baal, The hud really needs a lot of work and generally im not impressed by the layout of the info inside the tabs. Also it just feels pretty unnatural to use and i dislike that a lot.


lachlan   Australia. Jun 19 2008 06:51. Posts 5710

just in case ppl are finding PT2 slow, make sure u google how to convert to postgresql it makes PT2 million times faster. no comment on PT3, havent used it or bought it, probably wont until ppl say that the hud is equally as good as pahud.

only real advantage i see for PT3 besides asthetics is the 3bet/4bet stats which sound pretty invaluable

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Baal   Mexico. Jun 19 2008 07:03. Posts 18742


  On June 19 2008 06:51 lachlan wrote:
just in case ppl are finding PT2 slow, make sure u google how to convert to postgresql it makes PT2 million times faster. no comment on PT3, havent used it or bought it, probably wont until ppl say that the hud is equally as good as pahud.

only real advantage i see for PT3 besides asthetics is the 3bet/4bet stats which sound pretty invaluable



i used PT2 with postgresql and PT3 is still 10x faster

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Logiabs~   Colombia. Jun 19 2008 07:06. Posts 9133


  On June 19 2008 04:59 nolan wrote:
PT3 is garbage.

DO NOT GET IT YET.

hopefully they patch it up, but as of right now it's a heaping pile of shit imo.




qft


xafies   Greece. Jun 19 2008 08:50. Posts 669

sometimes it crashes 1-2 times during a session and that's annoying as hell


Sheitan   Canada. Jun 19 2008 09:22. Posts 3710

Fuck it i won't pay again for basicaly the same thing with a better interface, i don't even exploit 15% of PT2 so far.

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Kapol   Poland. Jun 19 2008 09:30. Posts 3155

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Minion   Brasil. Jun 19 2008 11:07. Posts 1660

i still use PT2 cause PT3 hud is retarded
btw does any1 know if we are still unable to resize PT3 hud stats?

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Fox   . Jun 19 2008 11:17. Posts 1613


  On June 19 2008 07:03 Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +



i used PT2 with postgresql and PT3 is still 10x faster

yes

pt3's update speed is monsterrific.


sTrAtO   Mexico. Jun 19 2008 11:32. Posts 4150

PT3 does not show my stats on a certain table everytime I guy leaves a table. Also, HUD is fucking unreadable and transparent... it uses a lot of space and even though you can resize the letters, its still sux.

I still use PT2

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Loco   Canada. Jun 19 2008 13:30. Posts 14562

I still use PT2 as well. I don't see PT3 as an upgrade at all.

tho 25nl with 250 roll is stupid tho started with 50 2 day ago ..i stick 10nl sometimes get bored and give 25nl shot but noone gives respct since i have very aggro hydralist icon - wolfheart 

p-halt   United States. Jun 19 2008 13:56. Posts 266

im with pt2 i hear heres problems with pt3's hud and i dont know how much u can customise it like pahud


hkbubbletea   Canada. Jun 19 2008 14:26. Posts 1359

They need to add back the HUD layout manger for those that really want to customize their hud. I can't find it in PT3 if it exists.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 19 2008 15:03. Posts 14562


  On June 19 2008 14:26 hkbubbletea wrote:
They need to add back the HUD layout manger for those that really want to customize their hud. I can't find it in PT3 if it exists.



it doesn't. they said they would probably add it eventually

tho 25nl with 250 roll is stupid tho started with 50 2 day ago ..i stick 10nl sometimes get bored and give 25nl shot but noone gives respct since i have very aggro hydralist icon - wolfheart 

Babs   Australia. Jun 19 2008 15:31. Posts 797

I still use PT2 after wobbly told me PT3 sucks salty hairy balls

PT2 is not slow at all as long as you have a decent computer

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Babs   Australia. Jun 19 2008 15:32. Posts 797

And pokerEV is not compatible with PT3 as well

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nolan   United States. Jun 19 2008 18:33. Posts 4009

the PT3 hud freezes your computer if you're playing more than like 6 tables.

maybe my computer is junk but im pretty sure thats not the case

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Baal   Mexico. Jun 19 2008 18:48. Posts 18742


  On June 19 2008 11:32 sTrAtO wrote:
PT3 does not show my stats on a certain table everytime I guy leaves a table. Also, HUD is fucking unreadable and transparent... it uses a lot of space and even though you can resize the letters, its still sux.

I still use PT2



you are aware you can set the transparency right? o_o


wow so many negatives about PT3... i guess im lucky then cuz i loooooove it

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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2008 01:59. Posts 14562

the part that tilts me the most is the black squares around the number, even when there is nothing they will appear.

tho 25nl with 250 roll is stupid tho started with 50 2 day ago ..i stick 10nl sometimes get bored and give 25nl shot but noone gives respct since i have very aggro hydralist icon - wolfheart 

whamm!   Philippines. Jun 20 2008 02:15. Posts 2022

pt3 sux pt2 cock imo. bought it a month ago, now i want to spit on it.

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szwindel   Poland. Jun 20 2008 04:20. Posts 27

PT3 puts me on tilt. It crashes in the middle of the session for no reason, and i have to reboot the system to meke it work again! wtf how could they release such a unstable product.

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szwindel   Poland. Jun 20 2008 04:22. Posts 27


  On June 19 2008 11:07 Minion wrote:
i still use PT2 cause PT3 hud is retarded
btw does any1 know if we are still unable to resize PT3 hud stats?



you can change the font size in the HUD configuration.


Muhweli   Finland. Jun 20 2008 04:34. Posts 9665

Yeah, you can set the transparency, font size - EVERYTHING is configureable.

As for the layout - after you move the boxes where you want it in a table, there is a "PT" button on the top center -> choose save layout from a drop down menu there. After this, all the tables you open will have this layout.

Oh and moving the boxes is done by drag'n'dropping with right mouse button.

The update speed is very nice compared to PT2 and the only downside to using it (imo) is that it has occasionally crashed.

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fenner   Australia. Jun 20 2008 05:06. Posts 1043

I noticed that PT3 only tends to crash when your stats checking your stats whilst importing, refreshing stats, looking at graphs etc. If you just leave it to do its thing its fine


Bigbobm   United States. Jun 20 2008 06:16. Posts 3019

just go without pt
ive played without pt or a hud for like 2 months now and i destroyed 25nl-100nl. you dont need pt or huds to be good.

fwiw, the only thing i care about is how much im making, which can easily be tracked by remembering your roll at the start of the session, and noting what it is at the end. dont really care much about winrates or saving every hand so i can make pretty graphs to tilt myself with later. imo poker tracker is a glorified tool that few ever use to its maximum capability.

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mrpav.com   Canada. Jun 20 2008 09:07. Posts 1982

PT3 HAS SO MANY BUGS ON VISTA, HOLY SHIT! Mine stops working ever 2 hours and i have to restart it. Also it sometimes displays stats on only 1/2 my tables, and I have to restart it again to display it on all tables. All in all it can be a good program as long as all the bugs are fixed.

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the cleaner   Venezuela. Jun 20 2008 09:19. Posts 147

I`m also using PT2, eventhought I bought PT3. To many bugs with the Hud. My stats keep appearing and dissapearing randomly and it gets laggy when you play more then 4tables on PS. Also, I hate that they didn`t incorporate a memory scanner, like in Pahud to be able to see stats for players in your database, before actualy sitting down at a PS table. Game selection is a piece of cake with Pahud, but sucks with PT3.

Hopefully they fix these issues with future updates.

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Muhweli   Finland. Jun 20 2008 12:21. Posts 9665

Bigbobm, it's prolly possible to beat those stakes without seeing any cards too. PT has very little to do with it.

PT is a great tool for analyzing your game and an awesome aid when multitabling. It doesn't substitute skill, but it can increase your edge on these stakes when the player base is huge and you don't necessarily remember all your encounters.

Knowing your winrate is mostly just telling you how well you're crushing the stakes which is a good indicator when planning on moving up.

I use XP myself and have very little trouble with PT3.

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Fox   . Jun 20 2008 12:26. Posts 1613

anyone here who thinks the hud looks different, you do realize it takes about 10 minutes to set the hud in pt3 exactly in it was with pt2


Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2008 12:32. Posts 14562


  On June 20 2008 12:26 Fox wrote:
anyone here who thinks the hud looks different, you do realize it takes about 10 minutes to set the hud in pt3 exactly in it was with pt2



no, it doesn't.

tho 25nl with 250 roll is stupid tho started with 50 2 day ago ..i stick 10nl sometimes get bored and give 25nl shot but noone gives respct since i have very aggro hydralist icon - wolfheart 

Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2008 12:32. Posts 14562

and I don't mean it doesnt take 10 mins I mean it doesn't look the same.

tho 25nl with 250 roll is stupid tho started with 50 2 day ago ..i stick 10nl sometimes get bored and give 25nl shot but noone gives respct since i have very aggro hydralist icon - wolfheart 

r2!!   Colombia. Jun 20 2008 12:42. Posts 123

pt3 hud is completly configurable and runs ok


MysticJoey   Poland. Jun 20 2008 12:42. Posts 573

i still dont have any color ranges ;// anyone has some tips on how to arrange this ?


Baal   Mexico. Jun 20 2008 15:59. Posts 18742


  On June 20 2008 12:21 Muhweli wrote:
Bigbobm, it's prolly possible to beat those stakes without seeing any cards too. PT has very little to do with it.

PT is a great tool for analyzing your game and an awesome aid when multitabling. It doesn't substitute skill, but it can increase your edge on these stakes when the player base is huge and you don't necessarily remember all your encounters.

Knowing your winrate is mostly just telling you how well you're crushing the stakes which is a good indicator when planning on moving up.

I use XP myself and have very little trouble with PT3.



i use XP too... it might be an issue with Vista and PT3.

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hawking   United States. Jun 20 2008 16:26. Posts 309

PT3 was released as a direct result of Holdemmanager which severely spanks the shit out of PT2/3.

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Baal   Mexico. Jun 20 2008 16:30. Posts 18742

PT2

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