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1kNL: KJs flush vs Leatherass9

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JEM87   United States. Jun 17 2008 11:21. Posts 49

lol really? i always thought mreki88 was good this post is retarded though. didn't convert SN on the turn i guess.


JDK87   Netherlands. Jun 17 2008 11:27. Posts 419


  On June 17 2008 10:03 casinocasino wrote:
Honestly, I have no idea why you would post this hand to begin with.
This is a very easy call and any discussion regarding other alternatives is the incorrect play.


Do you really think Leatherass is bluffing or valueraising worse >50% of the time? I can't see why this is such an easy read, given the lines during the hand. Please explain why it is so easy.

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Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jun 17 2008 11:57. Posts 3076

Few short pointers. I dont think Leatherass is gonna checkraise small flushes, I think his range is nutflush alot. So I think we can just call, because of his solid checkraise on river. As well if he would checkraise river with 89cc here, I think his will fold it most of the time to a shove.

I think checking turn is best here too.. You dont want to get jammed on, and you dont get called by alot worse on turn, I can see AK checkfolding by Leatherass for example.


Fayth    Canada. Jun 17 2008 13:32. Posts 10085

does he really lead pot on flop here with Ac8c ? lol

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jun 17 2008 15:56. Posts 20070


  On June 17 2008 12:32 Fayth wrote:
does he really lead pot on flop here with Ac8c ? lol



yeah with Qc and Tc out it's almost impossible for us to be beat here

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Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jun 17 2008 19:33. Posts 3076

But what people seem to not grasp is. No capable/smart player would really checkraise a small flush here, its a pretty weak play vs 2 decent regs, with turn action. You dont want to open up yourself to face a decision where you need to play a 4 buy in pot with 3rd/4th nuts, where most of the money goes in on river.

Why would Leatherass expect to get it in good for 2 buy ins on the river with very little action before, wobbly_au for example, you dont give him much credit. Its not really too much about the fact that it is hard to see him with AcXc here, its more about the fact, there is very few/none hand he would play for value this way that is worse than your hand, it doesnt make much sense. By shoving here, we are gonna see him fold whatever he has or call with the nuts. There are some situations where villain is tilting, where it becomes a little bit of another discussion, but if he is playing solid, no way we are pushing river here.

I dont agree with that Leatherass is gonna 2barrel AcXc always here either, I wouldn´t with 2 people in the pot and the chance getting shut out of it.

 Last edit: 17/06/2008 19:34

PoorUser    United States. Jun 17 2008 19:50. Posts 7472

call, to make it sweeter you dont even have to reload if you muck

it is gay that hes never bluffing though

Gambler EmeritusLast edit: 19/06/2008 04:39

ukfan81   United States. Jun 18 2008 09:07. Posts 139

Can anyone explain why it would be good to check that turn?


ukfan81   United States. Jun 18 2008 09:12. Posts 139

Why can't Dusty have AcKx with the line he took?

 Last edit: 18/06/2008 09:16

ukfan81   United States. Jun 18 2008 09:16. Posts 139

Nevermind checking turn I just read teh part about hand being underrepped and hero is not who posted.


mdom   United States. Jun 18 2008 09:17. Posts 94

Gay spot because I doubt hes ever bluffing, but at the same time its really hard for him to show up with the nut flush. i feel like calling is the only option here


consideratio   Sweden. Jun 18 2008 09:56. Posts 112

A2-A9cc is what you fear and what he will have if he has a hand. Can you exclude some of those? Also, do not believe a pro would be able to give you the answer, a pro's decision in this situation would be based on the recent gameflow after a quick "oh i fear A2-A9cc, does he have it?" thought.

Interperate signals, like an instafold gives away information about the opponents mental-state etc, pick up such details and learn what they will mean. Because they mean a bunch.


Rekrul   United States. Jun 18 2008 19:02. Posts 3338

LOOLOOKLOOLOOLLOOLLFLKOSDKJFKDJPOLLOl

LOL!

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 18 2008 19:38. Posts 34312


  On June 18 2008 18:02 Rekrul wrote:
LOOLOOKLOOLOOLLOOLLFLKOSDKJFKDJPOLLOl

LOL!



agreed... wtf shove and celebrate, if this were like J high flush it would be more interesting

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Jun 18 2008 21:37. Posts 8119

allin and stack his ass.

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tloapc   Pitcairn. Jun 18 2008 22:38. Posts 2591


  On June 18 2008 20:37 n0rthf4ce wrote:
allin and stack his leatherass.

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Minion   Brasil. Jun 19 2008 03:39. Posts 2112


  On June 18 2008 21:38 tloapc wrote:
Show nested quote +



rofl


androidmetro   United States. Jun 21 2008 15:14. Posts 140

Playing leatherass is -EV


Fayth    Canada. Jun 22 2008 11:04. Posts 10085

results plz!

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JDK87   Netherlands. Jun 30 2008 10:35. Posts 419

Hero called and villain showed the nuts with Ac8c

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