Poker site with monthly fee

There needs to be a poker site that has the option to just pay a monthly fee of 200$ or something, rake is fucking ridiculous. And it would be an option, so new fish singing up would just pay rake normally unless they choose otherwise.

We need to make our own site.

world poker exchange...

Uh...... Only winning players would really be interested in playing at such a place. Think about it.

def needs more competition to bring down rake.. trouble is cheap sites (eg high rakeback sites) are seemingly not very competent or trustworthy at the moment

$200? I think you need to look at how much you get raked per month and consider how unrealistic that is for anybody who plays above even 50nl.

ahahaha

ps.

We need to make our own site.[

hilarity. I can see it now, Full Twat Poker.

who cares, just get rakeback, or be a winning player =/

i paid 2k in rake 2 days ago ...and broke even

supernova elite is like 60% rakeback

but u gotta grind with the other nit regs

i quit my sne chase already

I've paid 8.8k individual rake on micro-stakes/low-stakes PLO in the 180k hands I've played so far. A nice system would be something like this. Individual rake or your share of the rake is paid up until a certain point and then you receive 100% rake-back. Receiving this benefit could even be given only to players who maintain something like Platinum status on PS. That way the company only has to give this benefit to the most loyal players and frankly its the least they could do.

Example System:
A) Platinum Star PS Players and up who play only hands on limits of .5/1 and below will pay up to $500 of individual rake and all subsequent rake paid will be given back to the player in a lump sum at the end of the month.
B) Platinum Star PS Players and up who play any hands on limits of 1/2 and above will pay up to $1500 of individual rake and all subsequent rake paid will be given back to the player in a lump sum at the end of the month.

Honestly when you think about it guys, doesn't it piss you off how much money you pay? I mean what other product would you pay thousands of dollars a month simply to have access too. The rake in a live casino is pretty sick but when you think about the sheer mass of hands we are capable of putting in online those numbers become insane. A good number of us are literally making PS 20k a month in individual paid rake and what exactly are they doing for you? It doesn't take that many people to start a revolution. All it takes is enough people who won't take this shit laying down, and then those people convince more people to follow them and support the movement.

rofl

where is this absurd self-entitlement coming from?

Pokerstars are providing you with a service. That's what they're doing for you, can you explain why they should provide it to you for free? If you want rakeback, play on a site that provides it. You know Pokerstars doesn't provide rakeback, so why are you still there?

On June 15 2008 10:51 Feiticeira wrote: rofl where is this absurd self-entitlement coming from? Pokerstars are providing you with a service. That's what they're doing for you, can you explain why they should provide it to you for free? If you want rakeback, play on a site that provides it. You know Pokerstars doesn't provide rakeback, so why are you still there?

PS actually provides rake-back in terms of VIP levels. There are some detailed threads that list what each VIP level is equivalent too in terms of RB. My point is not entitlement at all and it is simply a statement of the obvious. Yes PS is a business and they offer us a service for a fee. I'm saying the fee they charge is pretty insane when you think about what they are actually providing you with and if you don't agree with that try comparing it to World of Warcraft. I mean that is what $20.00 a month for those who play and it can't be any less complex to run and maintain for Blizzard than PS is.

Why shouldn't you pay less? Can you give me any good reason? We should just pay whatever it costs because thats how we do? You are the fucking reason we pay so much rake. You just don't care you just accept the situation for what it is. Straight up PS and other major poker skins are a huge gravy train and the players aren't getting their cut. Instead you grind your ass off to make way less than you should be because PS and other big companies scoop from your bottom line as the rake piles up.

On June 15 2008 11:06 Bejamin1 wrote: Why shouldn't you pay less? Can you give me any good reason? We should just pay whatever it costs because thats how we do? You are the fucking reason we pay so much rake. You just don't care you just accept the situation for what it is. Straight up PS and other major poker skins are a huge gravy train and the players aren't getting their cut. Instead you grind your ass off to make way less than you should be because PS and other big companies scoop from your bottom line as the rake piles up.

I don't play on Stars, I play on a site that gives rakeback because I like getting rakeback. Oops, dickhead.

lol @ 'players getting their cut' though, more with the sense of entitlement. Online poker is a lucrative business and I play online poker and pay to do so, so poker networks should give me back 100% of the money I give them!

Yeah, that's not absurd.

Feiticeira is the voice of reason in this thread. None of you are entitled to anything.

1.) Online Rake is less then Live Rake
2.) You don't have to play poker online
3.) There is no reason these companies owe you any of their profits for providing a extremely desired services.
4.) There is no way we could pull off some Strike to get them to lower rake.
5.) The amount of money they have to spend on security is HUGE.
6.) "Straight up PS and other major poker skins are a huge gravy train and the players aren't getting their cut" This is the the dumbest quote I've ever heard. Try going to Exxon, filling up your tank, then asking them for a cut of their profits.

That being established. It would be nice if there was a site where they raked less or charged a small fee but it wouldn't fly as well for the fish who don't realize how it's cheaper or don't play often. But it's more of a fairy tale.

On June 15 2008 08:12 Fayth wrote: who cares, just get rakeback, or be a winning player =/

balla

I def think such a website would work and would attract a very very good amount of player. Problem is that rake makes sens because it takes some money based on stakes, so we'd have to work out something slightly more elaborate. IMO there would be even more traffic than on those micro sites, I'm not really sure what would be the players view on this tho.

First off there is a huge difference between what we are entitled to, whats fair, and whats just greedy as fuck. The sites make over 100$ an hour from me alone. What else charges a 100$ an hour for something thats so simple and extremely easy to run compared to other business's.

It wouldn't be a fee for everyone, it would be an option. Fish sign up and if they don't select the fee, they just pay rake like normal. Obviously its never going to happen, because all these companies are focusing on how they can make more, not less. But whatever I'm just thinking out loud.



It's just something I think about every time I look at PT and see that I've paid like 10-20k in rake for the month. Makes me want to vomit.

That can't work at all period

No uninformed player (aka fish) would ever prefer to deposit at such a site

In his mind, why would he deposit 100 and have 50 of them cover the first monthly fee leaving him with just 50 to play 30 days when he can deposit his 100 at another site without fee and go ahead and play whenever he wants without any bullshit fees. Keep in mind he doesn't understand the concept ans severity of rake very well if at all

Edit: obv didn't see the post above, but even if that could work the other question remains, why would a poker site do that

fish would rather pay rake than a flat fee like a bill even if it were to save them money