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traktor   Czech Republic. Jun 12 2008 16:12. Posts 372 | | | |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Jun 12 2008 19:15. Posts 3585 | | |
I think I'm very likely to herocall on the turn. It seems pretty hard for him to have a king here (he's never floating AK 4 way and he'd usually raise AKss on flop); JJ/QQ are pretty likely to check behind a lot too; so the only hands left beating you are sets which flatted the flop hoping to bring others in and sometimes AA which didn't want to make a scary 4bet pre, and I think that draws such as TJss which 20/10s love to have a sniff with pre are enough of his range, with your good pot odds, to make the call. |
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traktor   Czech Republic. Jun 13 2008 02:30. Posts 372 | | |
| | On June 12 2008 21:04 TimDawg wrote:
why are we 3betting pf?
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For value. Babygrands 18% pf raise means that TT is good against him most of time, second player is loose fish... |
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k, TT might be ahead of his raising range but I really doubt that it's ahead of his 3-betting-calling range. So basically you are folding out his worse hands and keep him in with his better ones. Don't like it. |
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TianYuan   Korea (South). Jun 13 2008 10:04. Posts 6817 | | |
AND he's raising UTG. I can guarantee you he's not 18% utg ;o
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TimDawg   United States. Jun 13 2008 10:28. Posts 10197 | | |
| | On June 13 2008 05:48 Royal_Rumble wrote:
k, TT might be ahead of his raising range but I really doubt that it's ahead of his 3-betting-calling range. So basically you are folding out his worse hands and keep him in with his better ones. Don't like it. |
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brudman   Canada. Jun 13 2008 11:03. Posts 615 | | |
cityburke certainly has you beat here |
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Logiabs~   Colombia. Jun 13 2008 14:59. Posts 9133 | | |
| | On June 13 2008 05:48 Royal_Rumble wrote:
k, TT might be ahead of his raising range but I really doubt that it's ahead of his 3-betting-calling range. So basically you are folding out his worse hands and keep him in with his better ones. Don't like it. |
nice
now fold tho |
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p-halt   United States. Jun 13 2008 16:07. Posts 345 | | |
id fold, dunno looks like a set or somethin big to me |
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lachlan   Australia. Jun 13 2008 20:23. Posts 6991 | | |
doesn't matter what he has, all that matters is you should fold |
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traktor   Czech Republic. Jun 13 2008 21:33. Posts 372 | | |
Well, I didnt post this hand to heard that i should have it called it preflop..... but ok, u r so clever....everybody......it would be so fantastic move...if i only I did it,....mayby i was a milionaire now , or ? |
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YoMeR   United States. Jun 13 2008 21:42. Posts 12438 | | |
| | On June 13 2008 01:30 traktor wrote:
For value. Babygrands 18% pf raise means that TT is good against him most of time, second player is loose fish...
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so he's calling 100% of the time with worse if he raises with worse?
i think not. |
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Logiabs~   Colombia. Jun 13 2008 22:01. Posts 9133 | | | |
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 13 2008 22:26. Posts 34312 | | |
u nits 3 betting is fine even if his range > TT we fold most of his hands and we can still take it postflop or hit a set and it gives us a better image so they dont insta fold when we 3bet |
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YoMeR   United States. Jun 14 2008 13:35. Posts 12438 | | |
yes making it polarized is perfectly fine as most players at this stake won't really exploit it properly anyway.
Much rather 3 bet something like 76s here than 88-TT or something of similar strength. |
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YoMeR   United States. Jun 14 2008 13:36. Posts 12438 | | |
Baal: i don't think balancing our ranges here is as important as trying to get the MAX value out of TT and I don't think we can achieve that with TT here by 3 betting unless the game conditions are right. |
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locoo   Peru. Jun 14 2008 14:20. Posts 4566 | | |
i like 3 betting oop vs 2 players TT unless the PFR is super nitty, isnt gonna be very profitable to play postflop, 3 betting gets us value still vs some hands that will fold flop anyway
especially vs a loose fish in the middle that we can isolate |
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