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Big_Rob_48   United States. Jun 09 2008 02:05. Posts 3432 | | | |
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Trey   United States. Jun 09 2008 02:06. Posts 5616 | | |
Call, see turn. You have position and you don't wanna blow him off Kx. |
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Big_Rob_48   United States. Jun 09 2008 02:20. Posts 3432 | | |
Kx doesnt play like this and then fold if i push.... thats rly rly bad |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jun 09 2008 02:31. Posts 8918 | | |
Shove, what else can you do? |
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Day[9]   United States. Jun 09 2008 02:51. Posts 3447 | | |
i call and get it in on the turn.
only because we get a little more value out of those bluffy type hands (or even something like QcQx that picks up a draw on the turn)
he'll fold all those bluffy hands if you shove, and i'm pretty confident he'll stack off w/ AK (or even Kx if he's capable of calling that)
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Trey   United States. Jun 09 2008 06:30. Posts 5616 | | |
| | On June 09 2008 01:20 Big_Rob_48 wrote:
Kx doesnt play like this and then fold if i push.... thats rly rly bad |
Don't assume an unknown's good. You're getting money from Kx no matter what you do, you wanna maximize vs the hands that won't stack off (stone bluffs, etc) and you can do that by calling and feigning weakness. |
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Big_Rob_48   United States. Jun 09 2008 07:08. Posts 3432 | | | |
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phexac   United States. Jun 09 2008 13:10. Posts 2563 | | |
| | On June 09 2008 06:08 Big_Rob_48 wrote:
i agree trey, and day9 |
Same. |
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YoMeR   United States. Jun 09 2008 18:28. Posts 12438 | | |
yes flat on the flop is probably the standard here for many reasons unless you and villain have been going ape shit vs each other. |
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Muhweli   Finland. Jun 09 2008 18:54. Posts 10663 | | |
He's getting proper odds to call a push with Axs with fd if he thinks his A is good, should you push here. Anything else that he calls with probably beats ya. Altho, without history, he could play Kx (where x is decent) here this way too and think you're pushing a draw.
I don't think 3-bet is horribly wrong, but I prefer a call. If he continues the turn, it's easy to get it in - esp. on non-club turn which falls 80% of the time (if he has fd obv, 75% or sumthin' otherwise). |
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PoorUser   United States. Jun 09 2008 19:12. Posts 7472 | | |
since hes utg i dont mind flatting flop and then getting it in on any turn, otherwise im prefering 3b flop AI like you would with combodraw axcc - i dont think if you call on flop here as played people will continue with a bluff on turn |
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tokeweed   Philippines. Jun 09 2008 20:23. Posts 2149 | | |
im awwwwwwwwiiiiiiiiiiiiinnn don't want any more headaches..... |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 09 2008 23:32. Posts 20070 | | |
| | On June 09 2008 18:12 PoorUser wrote:
since hes utg i dont mind flatting flop and then getting it in on any turn, otherwise im prefering 3b flop AI like you would with combodraw axcc - i dont think if you call on flop here as played people will continue with a bluff on turn |
agreed I also like a shove here more often than a flat, he would have to be preety optimistic / bad to think he has fold equity aginst any Kx past the flop |
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