PLO 25 River spot with 7s full

On June 09 2008 23:12 collegesucks wrote: 66/88/AA is in the dude's range here? AAxx doesn't raise pre? ehh.. im guessing it's standard to flat 66/88 on that flop then?

people don't always raise AAxx pre. AA92 is not that great of a hand.

and it absolutely would be standard to flat 66/88 on that flop, raising would be bad

On June 09 2008 20:34 asdf2000 wrote: ur almost 1.5 buyins deep with the 4th best hand in a limped pot in plo don't raise, it's bad advice unless u know the guy is completely retarded

You are telling me that in PLO donks don't constantly pay-off with the under-house in this spot? People will turn up with 67xx, 68xx, 6Axx etc all the time and they will call down with it. I think that unless you have a read that villain is a huge nit its a very +EV spot to re-raise all-in.

this is why i need omaha tracker lol, i'm play on feel now, like neilly! cept I'm a nit, not retarded, and I suck!

seems like a very easy shove, very easy for him to have (+ more combinations of) stuff like A69x, 67xx, 68xx, really the only hand I expect to be behind is 88, but there's no reason villian should be flatting top boat on turn unless hes mega trappy. I think it's also correct to assume most low stakes players think AAxx is always the nuts no matter what and ALWAYS raise preflop, on that note it's probably still some kind part of his range, but a very small part, I think we are good here more than 60-70%+ of the time + he never folds any of his range since no1 ever folds boats here we need to reshove and get looked up by A6xx

On June 10 2008 14:36 asdf2000 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2008 23:12 collegesucks wrote: 66/88/AA is in the dude's range here? AAxx doesn't raise pre? ehh.. im guessing it's standard to flat 66/88 on that flop then? people don't always raise AAxx pre. AA92 is not that great of a hand. and it absolutely would be standard to flat 66/88 on that flop, raising would be bad

Although I agree with your opinion of AAxx, the 25 PLO player does not. There is no way he has AAxx here imo, unless it was a misclick pre. I also agree that he could possibly flat 66xx or 88xx on that flop, and it is pretty standard. Once again, it's 25PLO and they both have more than 100BB's I can't see them not raising the turn? Unless they are some sort of super trappy player which you should be able to establish that sort of read pretty quickly.

On June 13 2008 21:06 TalentedTom wrote: but there's no reason villian should be flatting top boat on turn unless hes mega trappy.

what??

why would he possibly raise the made nuts while in position???

On June 14 2008 19:57 NiagaraPoker wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2008 14:36 asdf2000 wrote:   On June 09 2008 23:12 collegesucks wrote: 66/88/AA is in the dude's range here? AAxx doesn't raise pre? ehh.. im guessing it's standard to flat 66/88 on that flop then? people don't always raise AAxx pre. AA92 is not that great of a hand. and it absolutely would be standard to flat 66/88 on that flop, raising would be bad Although I agree with your opinion of AAxx, the 25 PLO player does not. There is no way he has AAxx here imo, unless it was a misclick pre.

well thats funny because i can post at least a dozen hands at lowstakes PLO where the other player didn't raise their AA pre

not to say i entirely disagree with you, im just saying that fundamentally if the player has any clue, checking AA pre isn't nearly as bad as re-potting an underfull would be.

On June 15 2008 14:42 asdf2000 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 13 2008 21:06 TalentedTom wrote: but there's no reason villian should be flatting top boat on turn unless hes mega trappy. what?? why would he possibly raise the made nuts while in position???

because there's only $1.5 in the pot with $50 behind , unless hes completley clueless or very trappy he should always be raising

if he raises 88 or 66 on the turn then he only gets action from hands that will give action to his river raise anyways

so that absolutely is bad

On June 15 2008 18:36 asdf2000 wrote: if he raises 88 or 66 on the turn then he only gets action from hands that will give action to his river raise anyways so that absolutely is bad

i doubt 25nl players think like this.. i'm sure the most common thought process is "yes full house, raise"

assuming he cant call with worse is leveling yourself

whatever I guess we just disagree.

I have no problem with assuming someone is an idiot when there is reasoning beyond "its lowstakes". esp if they have a deep stack

i dont know how you fold here, you have an over paired full house. most likely he has a6

call this because he will have usually worse full house there
I play these stakes and there are 66xx, 88xx possible...especially because he see u like crazy man who is firing pot on every street so he can slowplay and he has position
AAxx isnt really possible if he doesnt hold XX which plays with flop...

On June 17 2008 13:05 artas wrote: AAxx isnt really possible if he doesnt hold XX which plays with flop...

thats a good point, I didn't think about that

On June 17 2008 13:05 artas wrote: call this because he will have usually worse full house there I play these stakes and there are 66xx, 88xx possible...especially because he see u like crazy man who is firing pot on every street so he can slowplay and he has position AAxx isnt really possible if he doesnt hold XX which plays with flop...

if he will usually have a full house, the correct play is raise

idk all 25nl omaha players are pretty much donks ur never behind here

On June 19 2008 00:26 p-halt wrote: idk all 25nl omaha players are pretty much donks ur never behind here

such a true statement I know this thread is old but I dont see how you can't shove here at 25NL people get it in with like anything

On June 15 2008 22:22 TalentedTom wrote: assuming he cant call with worse is leveling yourself

QFT.

I think his range is very rare here. What type of hand is he calling flop and turn to pot river??? weak draw + A6 ?
I think this is player dependant. Im mostly calling here and shoving to Omahahahha donkeys