100nl unimproved river, monoboard

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piratematerial Netherlands. Jun 08 2008 08:13. Posts 773

what do i do?
Submitted by : piratematerial

PokerStars Game #17997652646: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/06/08 - 10:02:57 (ET)
Table 'Hertha II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: www43 ($97.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Happybella ($101.50 in chips)
Seat 3: puenschie ($97.75 in chips)
Seat 4: MAQAS ($259.85 in chips)
Seat 5: pokerhaasje ($112.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Groovy Cake ($99 in chips)
Groovy Cake: posts small blind $0.50
www43: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to pokerhaasje
Happybella: folds
puenschie: calls $1
MAQAS: folds
pokerhaasje : raises $4 to $5
Groovy Cake: folds
www43: folds
puenschie: calls $4

Flop (Pot : $11.50)


puenschie: checks
pokerhaasje : bets $9.50
puenschie: calls $9.50

Turn (Pot : $30.50)


puenschie: checks
pokerhaasje : bets $25
puenschie: calls $25

River (Pot : $80.50)


puenschie: checks

piratematerial Netherlands. Jun 08 2008 08:13. Posts 773

played only 14 hands or something with him. he seems loose passive.

piratematerial Netherlands. Jun 08 2008 08:19. Posts 773

fuck, wrong forum sorry

Oly United Kingdom. Jun 08 2008 08:23. Posts 3585

No way he's folding, a loose passive will put you on exactly what you have and call a bluff here with a jack. It seems pretty unlikely he's called you down with the naked Qd. I don't think the second barrel is a good idea either. He's usually always going to call that turn if he calls the flop.

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The72o Zimbabwe. Jun 08 2008 09:26. Posts 6112

he have a pair here almost always and will never fold after calling flop and turn

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PandaSaurus Australia. Jun 08 2008 10:07. Posts 1651

Vs an unknown with 14 hands, I hate making bluffs like this.

If he's loose passive, I'd check it down and take a note on his hand and how he plays it.

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Logiabs~ Colombia. Jun 08 2008 10:54. Posts 9133

just check / fold, hes not folding

cariadon Estonia. Jun 08 2008 12:14. Posts 4019

betting 70 has to work a little under 50% of the time but checking loses this pot like 95% of the time
14 hands and you are saying he SEEMS loose passive, how acehud-oriented can you get?
bet the river or don't bet the turn

YoMeR United States. Jun 08 2008 12:31. Posts 12438

If i'm going to fire this turn I'm going to be firing this river very very often. I'd prolly shove river to make a call harder too.

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piratematerial Netherlands. Jun 08 2008 12:36. Posts 773

i dont shove this river often vs a decent player but he seemed loose passive (now ive played a couple hundred hands with him i know for sure; its the 50/20/1.2 type. i figured he would float lots of diamonds once or twice and all jacks and might fold some weaker jacks (i was hoping he would even fold AJ) so i thought shoving this river might be profitable.