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[NL50] AKs vs station donk

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Ezekiell   Hungary. May 17 2008 16:35. Posts 718

Villain was 42/6/0.95 with a PF AF of 0.33. The caller was a 45/10. The limp/big raise always represents a big hand from these donks, but with an other caller, i was really lost. Fold/raise/allin?

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POKERSTARS GAME #17500032910: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/05/17 - 17:45:38 (ET)
Table 'Edisona II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: sbwloser ($52.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Cayoosh16 ($52.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($72.30 in chips)
Seat 4: mrpirat ($67.70 in chips)
Seat 5: SammyQ10 ($33.70 in chips)
Seat 6: chipper3286 ($77.60 in chips)
SammyQ10: posts small blind $0.25
chipper3286: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KsAs
sbwloser: calls $0.50
Cayoosh16: folds
Hero : raises $2 to $2.50
mrpirat: calls $2.50
SammyQ10: folds
chipper3286: folds
sbwloser: raises $7.50 to $10
Hero : ??

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u got someone to call u with second top pair in headsup?  

Exhilarate   United States. May 17 2008 17:24. Posts 5453

Donks love to limp/reraise big pairs. This screams AA/KK right here.
I've seen some donks do this with QQ from time to time also.
He has you pretty crushed and I think you should fold here.


devon06atX   Canada. May 17 2008 18:00. Posts 5462

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kantoiki   Australia. May 17 2008 22:32. Posts 3818

sounds like you can find a better spot pretty easily?

muckv - i have an iq of 180 and i want someone to teach me how to take a shit IN the toilet. 

SemPeR   Canada. May 17 2008 23:26. Posts 2288

I fold.


rogier   Netherlands. May 18 2008 02:59. Posts 1528

fold, you're not getting his stack on a king/acehigh flop if hes got queens, but he's getting yours

in every other case, he'll take it down unless you flop the fucking nutstraight


rogier   Netherlands. May 18 2008 06:38. Posts 1528

fold, you're not getting his stack on a king/acehigh flop if hes got queens, but he's getting yours

in every other case, he'll take it down unless you flop the fucking nutstraight


X FishNChipzz   Netherlands. May 18 2008 06:58. Posts 18

Hmm I see some squeezeplay. Dunno how active u were on that table. He wants some dead chips in the pot, so I really think he's holding medium pair at the most, most likely AK/AQ, QQ-AA is really out of the question I assume. Id call this one only on the odds: 15-7,5 gives an exact 2-1 odds, and thats enough surely. Also take in consideration that he called to see a cheap flop, but when u raised and another one called as well, he needed to get one of you or both out. Definatly classic example of a squeezeplay on mediumpair.

Odds? thats odd.Last edit: 18/05/2008 06:59

rogier   Netherlands. May 18 2008 07:42. Posts 1528

someone with <1 af wont squeeze with med pp pre, especially when hes got setodds.

you can rule out a misclick also as PS doesnt have a bet pot btn

 Last edit: 18/05/2008 07:42

Sennpu   Canada. May 18 2008 11:54. Posts 1960


  On May 18 2008 05:58 FishNChipzz wrote:
Hmm I see some squeezeplay. Dunno how active u were on that table. He wants some dead chips in the pot, so I really think he's holding medium pair at the most, most likely AK/AQ, QQ-AA is really out of the question I assume. Id call this one only on the odds: 15-7,5 gives an exact 2-1 odds, and thats enough surely. Also take in consideration that he called to see a cheap flop, but when u raised and another one called as well, he needed to get one of you or both out. Definatly classic example of a squeezeplay on mediumpair.



People rarely Squeeze on NL50. + this is a donk and donk doesnt evaluate their hand ''oh i gotta get one of them out'' --v he has AA/KK here most of the time so it a Fold/Call. If u happen to flop a monster it aShove. (obviously)

then she ask me my qualities n bad qualities. so i tell her truth and she kinda laugh at me lol. then i ask her for hers and she gtg. i think it going ok. -Floofy 

X FishNChipzz   Netherlands. May 19 2008 08:25. Posts 18


  On May 18 2008 10:54 Sennpu wrote:
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People rarely Squeeze on NL50. + this is a donk and donk doesnt evaluate their hand ''oh i gotta get one of them out'' --v he has AA/KK here most of the time so it a Fold/Call. If u happen to flop a monster it aShove. (obviously)


U are probably right, sometimes my fault is to compare my play with those of fish/donkeys. Only what I don't get is why call UTG in first place (surely with KK its utterly stupid), and then put out some weird reraise. Still I would have called ( or when I have my maniacdays, shove preflop), considering the pot-odds. If you flop a flush/straight, u empty his pockets definately.

Odds? thats odd. 

Fox   . May 19 2008 09:07. Posts 3110

i call this 100% you have position and you have a monster. if an A hits with at least 1 spade i get it allin with ease.

Obviously any 2 spade board get it in. But there is no way you should fold this. But if you think his range is like super strong like AK/KK/AA/QQ then calling is fine. Donks at NL50 will do this with QQ and sometimes even JJ I don't think you should really restrict him to AA/KK only.


 



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