nl50 top pair facing turn c/r [middle card pairing

Hand 1
Submitted by : RockingBastard

Seat 1: george538 $40.20 in chips
Seat 2: Mr-Kaye $29.25 in chips
Seat 3: dannn77 $10.25 in chips
Seat 4: Hero $52.25 in chips
Seat 5: willqwerty $52.95 in chips
Seat 6: jonigerard $56.85 in chips
dannn77: posts small blind $0.25
Hero : posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
willqwerty: folds
jonigerard: folds
george538: calls $0.50
Mr-Kaye: folds
dannn77: folds
Hero : raises $1.75 to $2.25
george538: calls $1.75
*** FLOP ***
Hero : bets $3.25
george538: calls $3.25
*** TURN ***
Hero : bets $8
george538: raises $8 to $16
Hero :

no reads

Seat 1: 5555522 $17.95 in chips
Seat 2: bogoos $65.20 in chips
Seat 3: Hero $48.75 in chips
Seat 4: Reesa3 $50.20 in chips
Seat 5: AllinONkk $41.25 in chips
Seat 6: willqwerty $50.30 in chips
5555522: posts small blind $0.25
bogoos: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises $1.25 to $1.75
Reesa3: folds
AllinONkk: folds
willqwerty: folds
5555522: folds
bogoos: calls $1.25
*** FLOP ***
bogoos: checks
Hero : bets $2.80
bogoos: calls $2.80
*** TURN ***
bogoos: checks
Hero : bets $6.75
bogoos: raises $9.25 to $16
Hero :

I think especially hand 1 if you're paying any kind of attention you should know if he's a weak/crappy limper (call pf raise with trash, predictable after the flop, etc) or some kind of passive tightie. Auto-defaulting to "no reads tell me wat to do plz" isn't going to cut it.

Raise to commit on turn if you think you're ahead, I think you put yourself in a shitty spot vs most rivers if you call (esp oop in the 1st hand...might be okay to call 2nd).

On the chance that this is your very very first hand with no read, I'm inclined to think folding looks fine because you'll have a ton more spots later on if they're going to be call-minraising their draws on the turn.

Snapfold hand 1. because your oop and he will be shoving shitload of rivers.

hand 2 i fold too since he made it so that he has around potsized bet left and that is generally a shittyspot.


Next time post stats or something since i think im folding these both 100% readless.

you're probably beat in both hands by either a set or a middle pair that he looked you up with

I guess i dont mind folds on these but reads help a lot vs these types of players because they play very readably for the most part

yep. fold without history/reads and move on...