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Jamie217   Canada. May 15 2008 17:10. Posts 1788

Villian is good reg running at about 23/19 but not a ton of history.
Thoughts on turn/riv and what villians range is for leading the turn 4way

Submitted by : Jamie217

POKERSTARS GAME #17456034880: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2008/05/15 - 19:33:53 (ET)
Table 'Ithaka IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: StarOfTheSea ($486 in chips)
Seat 2: BGnight ($400 in chips)
Seat 3: Jamie217 ($477 in chips)
Seat 4: athomebored1 ($144.10 in chips)
Seat 5: AA_Legend ($109.85 in chips)
BGnight: posts small blind $2
Jamie217 : posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to Jamie217 KsJd
athomebored1: folds
AA_Legend: calls $4
StarOfTheSea: calls $4
BGnight: calls $2
Jamie217 : raises $20 to $24
AA_Legend: calls $20
StarOfTheSea: calls $20
BGnight: calls $20

Flop (Pot : $96.00)

   QdKh3c
BGnight: checks
Jamie217 : checks
AA_Legend: checks
StarOfTheSea: checks

Turn (Pot : $96.00)

   QdKh3cJs
BGnight: bets $70
Jamie217 :



EDIT: I call the turn river is an offsuit T and he bets 145 into 236

Dzoo: I call cuntLast edit: 15/05/2008 21:19

CirCa   Canada. May 15 2008 18:21. Posts 880

i would bet the flop just about always

as played i don't think there is value in raising turn... i would say his range for leadin out is K10, Kxss, Q10, J10, QJ, 910, 33, and maybe A10

river is pretty player dependant.. i'd be scared if he bet out strong.. tho i don't know if i could fold because it would look like you have JQ at best.. (4th edit: assuming river is a blank)

 Last edit: 15/05/2008 20:48

concrescence   United Kingdom. May 15 2008 18:39. Posts 12644

are u check/folding the flop? its prob a fold as played cuz u are behind a lot of stuff he's leading with i'd imagine and its not rly a good card for him to bluff either ;s

bluff raising would be bad

 Last edit: 15/05/2008 18:41

Big_Rob_48   United States. May 15 2008 19:15. Posts 2742

Man.... I don't know if I can let this go right here just yet, The raise pf is leaving me ??????? . I call here and eval river I guess

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TalentedTom    Canada. May 15 2008 19:26. Posts 9741

he never limps ATo here, your hand is always good unless he has T9/33, on that note call / see river

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CirCa   Canada. May 15 2008 19:37. Posts 880


  On May 15 2008 19:26 TalentedTom wrote:
he never limps ATo here, your hand is always good unless he has T9/33, on that note call / see river



Tom,

i love how u say what i'm trying to say in 1k less words and without 3 edits... god i'm horrible at posting


Jamie217   Canada. May 15 2008 19:57. Posts 1788

Ok I flatted... river was a T and he bet 145$ into 236

Dzoo: I call cuntLast edit: 15/05/2008 20:52

concrescence   United Kingdom. May 15 2008 20:17. Posts 12644

thats the prob imo, your not really flatting a big hand on the turn (or checking it on the flop) so your getting put into gay river spots


JonnyCosMo   United States. May 15 2008 20:20. Posts 4446


  On May 15 2008 19:57 Jamie217 wrote:
Ok I flatted... river was an A and he bet 145$ into 236



now u fold

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Jamie217   Canada. May 15 2008 20:52. Posts 1788

wow Im retarded... river was a T sorry

Dzoo: I call cunt 

CirCa   Canada. May 15 2008 20:54. Posts 880


  On May 15 2008 20:52 Jamie217 wrote:
wow Im retarded... river was a T sorry



i'd still fold i think

tho the more i think about it i can't see what he can really have here unless its A10/air

 Last edit: 15/05/2008 21:00

Twisted    Netherlands. May 16 2008 01:06. Posts 6942

No clue why you wouldn't just bet the flop :|

Just make it easy on yourself and bet flop and be done with the hand afterwards.


n0rthf4ce    United States. May 16 2008 02:23. Posts 6292

he never has air here and you are beating 10x/QJ. i like your line, fold river.

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n0rthf4ce    United States. May 16 2008 02:25. Posts 6292

betting 54 on the flop is another good alternative. if the shortie jams we can call, if he jams and there is an overcall/reraise we can fold, if anyone else raises we can safely fold/go with our read.

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Jamie217   Canada. May 16 2008 12:04. Posts 1788

ok sounds good, I was actually villian in this hand and had ATo and got looked up by BGnight's KJ on the river. I thought that my hand was fairly transparent by the river and that I was not going to get paid off by anything I beat even though I dont know if there is much else I could have done

Dzoo: I call cunt 

 



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