100NL turn combo, shove or call?

dont know much about villain. no idea whether he is inducing a shove or genuinely chicken.. i estimate a shove would have quite some fold equity.
Submitted by : piratematerial

PokerStars Game #17401908887: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/05/13 - 13:07:16 (ET)
Table 'Isora' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: 2hats ($60 in chips)
Seat 2: siIver11 ($36.45 in chips)
Seat 3: FATDAN44 ($276.85 in chips)
Seat 4: snowplowscot ($84.05 in chips)
Seat 5: muck_em_all ($46.45 in chips)
Seat 6: pokerhaasje ($113.25 in chips)
Seat 7: u_connection ($98.20 in chips)
Seat 8: 1p0kerboy ($104.95 in chips)
Seat 9: radek.r ($56 in chips)
1p0kerboy: posts small blind $0.50
radek.r: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to pokerhaasje
2hats: folds
siIver11: folds
FATDAN44: folds
snowplowscot has timed out
snowplowscot: folds
snowplowscot is sitting out
muck_em_all: folds
pokerhaasje : raises $3 to $4
u_connection: calls $4
1p0kerboy: folds
radek.r: folds

Flop (Pot : $9.50)

   
pokerhaasje : bets $8
u_connection: calls $8

Turn (Pot : $25.50)

   
pokerhaasje : checks
u_connection: bets $10

I only play FR to 24-table grind, but I probably fire again on this turn.

i would think a shove is very bad though.

I would prefer to just bet the turn. This folds out most of his medium aces.
As played I would probably just call. I think a shove is terrible. I could see an argument for raising to 32 as then your in a position to value shove rivers that you hit and still have some fold equity on the turn.

I would expect to hear from big hands on the flop unless I find villain to be especially trappy even on these boards.

I fire turn very often here. Check is ok i think if you don't think villain will fold Ax to turn bet. Check/raising that smallish bet is dumb imo as you're getting great odds.

On May 13 2008 11:26 YoMeR wrote: I would expect to hear from big hands on the flop unless I find villain to be especially trappy even on these boards. I fire turn very often here. Check is ok i think if you don't think villain will fold Ax to turn bet. Check/raising that smallish bet is dumb imo as you're getting great odds.

Who folds top pair??
without further reads i think c/c turn is fine. you have showdown value + outs.

i'd keep barreling, as played CC is prob best, and lead whenever you improve bet smaller if you flush pot it if you river Q/T - a check raise is most likley too sophisticated vs a player who donks $10 and he may end up calling with with some random Ax hand

Can't really go wrong with a call getting 3.5-to-1, but i do prefer a second barrel over c/c. Shoving seems bad - huge overbet that commits you with a (if called, marginal) draw. Sure you fold out some better hnds but I think generally there's more value in the implied odds. Esp. for Q and T outs.

Obviously making the hand easy to play isn't the objective of the game, but you can't really make a mistake here by calling while pushing can be a huge spew against something like a set or even TPTK he refuses to fold

prob second barrel here but id say its unclear if you can clearly shove/vb your Q when you hit cuz he prob plays AQ like this i prob still bet it but just something to keep in mind

basically im still betting tho cuz this hand does dominate a bunch of flush cards + you have quite a few outs (although not all clean) and i doubt an ace is all he calls flop with (in which case he would prob never fold turn)