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PandaSaurus Australia. May 12 2008 07:13. Posts 1651

Submitted by : PandaSaurus

PokerStars Game #17374684444: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/05/12 - 08:48:16 (ET)
Table 'Baillauda III' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PandaSaurus ($147.20 in chips)
Seat 2: the clêaner ($429.35 in chips)
Seat 3: howieebub ($107.25 in chips)
Seat 4: superfly90 ($40.95 in chips)
Seat 5: Kellie*T ($18 in chips)
Seat 6: weissasia ($70.60 in chips)
the clêaner: posts small blind $0.50
howieebub: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to PandaSaurus
superfly90: calls $1
Kellie*T: calls $1
weissasia: folds
PandaSaurus : raises $5 to $6
the clêaner: raises $9 to $15
howieebub: folds
superfly90: raises $25.95 to $40.95 and is all-in
Kellie*T: folds
PandaSaurus :

Cleaner is a good TAGish player who I haven't played with before. I don't know if it's the real one or some smurf (most likely) but he's pretty good all the same. He has 3 bet me once before when I raised his BB from the SB with KJo. My options are:

a) Isolate short stack and push
b) Just flat call and see what Cleaner does (do you call if he pushes over me? What do we do on a flop with overcards? No overcards?)
c) fold (nit life)

Hand #2:

Submitted by : PandaSaurus

PokerStars Game #17374728809: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/05/12 - 08:51:42 (ET)
Table 'Perihelion' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: PandaSaurus ($159.70 in chips)
Seat 2: chevyman1983 ($99.35 in chips)
Seat 3: francis11100 ($277.15 in chips)
Seat 4: fabiko ($61.90 in chips)
Seat 5: SwissCantMis ($127.35 in chips)
Seat 6: Kutila ($97 in chips)
PandaSaurus : posts small blind $0.50
chevyman1983: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to PandaSaurus
francis11100: folds
fabiko: folds
SwissCantMis: raises $2 to $3
Kutila: calls $3
PandaSaurus : raises $9 to $12
chevyman1983: folds
SwissCantMis: raises $26 to $38
PandaSaurus

Swiss is a good solid reg @ 18/18/5. I've 3 bet him once this session and check raised him with a set (he folded). He may be getting a bit frustrated with me, and also my play looks very squeezy here (which is a play I make occasionally and he has seen and knows I make now and then)

What do you think is best here?

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United States. May 12 2008 07:33. Posts 12159

i shove hand 1, cooler if cleaner has you beaten

hand 2 i still fold, very few people at these stakes are willing to make 4bet bluffs even if they know you're full of shit

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser

jkeller United States. May 12 2008 07:52. Posts 68

since effective stack w/ cleaner is 147, you can just call 40 and fold to shove which would probably mean aa/kk (but maybe sometimes ak). it is a tough spot but the good thing is most of the time cleaner is going to fold. if he calls id committ if no a/k on flop. really tough spot though pf, because superfly could also have you beat. do you have any info on superfly? how aggressive has the table been in general and do you have stats on cleaners 3bet %?

2 is easy fold imo, ur crushed at least half the time and coin flip the other half

Yugless

United States. May 12 2008 10:27. Posts 7174

1. shove
2. fold

Baal - look is talking hah.