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X Benzooor   United States. May 10 2008 01:16. Posts 630 | | |
I hate posting HU hands because it's so player-dependent but I'd like some feedback on this because a friend and I were discussing it and input from other players is needed.
I'll give a background:
We haven't been playing that long, so not many big hands. I'm playing probably 44/40, and he's a little looser, I think my HUD had him at 50/48. Basically a lot of raise/fold/3betting going on. Earlier he called my 3b with 97s and I paid him off with A high on a very dry board for ~100, and he called 2 barrels with A high and I wussed the river.
When I have flatted PF I have been c/r often, usually to 22-26$. A couple times I have followed through, and another time we c/c the turn and I c/r the river as a bluff and took it down.
Here's the hand I have a question about..
Submitted by : Benzooor
PokerStars Game #17324996079: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/10 - 02:56:50 (ET)
Table 'Gordonia' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Benzooor ($199 in chips)
Seat 2: sIotmachine ($366 in chips)
sIotmachine: posts small blind $1
Benzooor : posts big blind $2
Holecards Dealt to Benzooor 
sIotmachine: raises $4 to $6
Benzooor : calls $4
Flop (Pot : $12.00)
  Benzooor : checks
sIotmachine: bets $8
Benzooor : raises $14 to $22
sIotmachine: calls $14
Turn (Pot : $56.00)
   Benzooor : checks
sIotmachine: checks
River (Pot : $56.00)
    Benzooor : bets $32
sIotmachine: raises $306 to $338 and is all-in
It's ~130 or so to me on the river.
I think the pf call is marginal but not bad.. I am not worried about the flop and turn I think I played them fine - it was a bad turn to double barrel because almost none of his holdings that called the flop are folding to a bet on the turn. I assumed he was calling with a 56/9T/A8/random PP type of hand, possibly even just A high as he had done earlier.
On the river, the hand I am most worried about is 56, but I don't know how often he raise here with 56 because it usually wouldn't be for value. I am also kind of worried about 9T but again it wouldn't make sense for him to raise this river, and I also think he bets the turn with that hand most of the time. It also seems like a very obvious scarecard to be bluffing since I don't have a straight here very often.
Given all of that information, is this river a call? I don't think it's as cut and dry as some people will think on first glance, so if some good HU players would give me some input here I would appreciate it.
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 01:37. Posts 5070 | | |
Obviously you beat nothing he does this for value with so it simply boils down to how often he's bluffing vs how often he has 6x or Jx. In my experience playing HU at 1/2 almost nobody bluff raises the river so I would fold here without giving it a 2nd thought. |
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The72o   Zimbabwe. May 10 2008 01:40. Posts 6112 | | | |
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 01:42. Posts 5070 | | |
If he has 2 pair he's not raising for value or turning it into a bluff, so what exactly does he call on the flop that he turns into a bluff anyway? Is he even capable of turning a 1 pair hand into a bluff? And I'm not sure you don't have a straight all that often, I'm sure J8 56 and some other random jacks and 6s are in your range here in his eyes so I don't really know what he expects to make you fold. Pretty much exactly what you have is like the only hand that gets to the river in this fashion and value bets but folds to a shove I think. No reason to think he's bluffing imo |
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 01:59. Posts 5070 | | |
Also I would bet the turn cause I think it's > c/cing as if he has you beat he's betting anyway and if he has worse he's checking behind a lot which you don't want. Reasons to c/c would be if you think he's floating with complete air, no pair no draw type hands and bets turn with them, and bets turn with worse hands than yours also, like is a dumb retard who bets 7x here or think he bets 56 instead of takes the free card. So when you're beat you're putting in the same amount of money whether you c/c or bet but when you're ahead you're missing value by checking the turn |
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X Benzooor   United States. May 10 2008 02:04. Posts 630 | | |
Midian thank you very much for your input. I really appreciate your analysis; I think you're right and I definitely respect your opinion. |
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