[nl10] is my river a leak

i check here. is this a leaky play? anyone have any tips?


Submitted by : rockman255

PokerStars Game #17320686181: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/05/09 - 22:20:22 (ET)
Table 'Lameia III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: adotaplayer ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($10.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Chondo06 ($14.40 in chips)
Seat 5: samtan08 ($17.05 in chips)
Seat 6: WaldnerJO ($8.90 in chips)
Chondo06: posts small blind $0.05
samtan08: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
WaldnerJO: folds
adotaplayer: calls $0.10
Hero : raises $0.40 to $0.50
Chondo06: folds
samtan08: calls $0.40
adotaplayer: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.15)

   
samtan08: checks
Hero : bets $1
samtan08: calls $1

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $3.15)

   
samtan08: checks
Hero : bets $2.50
samtan08: calls $2.50

River (Pot : $8.15)

   
samtan08: checks
Hero : checks

Showdown
samtan08: shows (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Hero : shows (two pair, Kings and Deuces - Queen kicker)
Hero collected $7.75 from pot

Summary
Total pot $8.15 | Rake $0.40
Board  
Seat 2: adotaplayer folded before Flop
Seat 3: Hero (button) showed and won ($7.75) with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 4: Chondo06 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: samtan08 (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 6: WaldnerJO folded before Flop (didn't bet)

player dependent. I think against most of the passive fish you can safely bet like 2$ (you've got 6 left I think) and fold to a shove. They're hardly attentive enough to read it as weakness.

I get 3 streets of value vs donks cause I generally don't give them much respect, unless otherwise.
Don't know if he's a donk or not though, but yeah

It is absurd to think you are beat on the river, you must bet here for value.

$6 or more and call shove. Personally I shove here mostly cause I'm not folding anyways and I think another king or someone in love with their QQ or JJ won't differenciate between the bets either.

Also, this is why you buyin for a full stack - situations exactly like this.

You got a loose player to call you with a dominated hand, hit the perfect card and only got 40bb from him

bet bet shove. the river 2 is like the perfect card for you, u can shove for value here.

The only hand your worried about is AK shove that bitch.

most times i d check behind too but on this river there s no way ... bet for value

why do you bet turn if you check river
i mean
board hasnt changed ...

On May 10 2008 09:46 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: why do you bet turn if you check river i mean board hasnt changed ...

at these stakes i would think tpgk would be pot pot shove.

as played check behind, u cant call a shove here.

But seriously if u check the river why did u bet the turn?

On May 10 2008 17:57 Sennpu wrote: as played check behind, u cant call a shove here. But seriously if u check the river why did u bet the turn?

uh what?

anyways shove since nothing that beats you will check the river

definately a leak

On May 10 2008 18:43 Python817 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2008 17:57 Sennpu wrote: as played check behind, u cant call a shove here. But seriously if u check the river why did u bet the turn? uh what? anyways shove since nothing that beats you will check the river

Sometimes people check the river to give the other player one last chance to bluff.
Then again, the level of thinking at 10NL sucks so shove lawl.

only if another 2 of clubs came i would check this behind make a thin halfpot valuebet or smthing.

u will see so many times ppl calling u down all streets with like,K7,K8,K9,K10,KJ,QQ,JJ and maybe a split pot with KQ, i dont think AK here, a NL10 player would def pop AK up somewhere, and if he sneakplays AK like this and shoves over you on the river, so be it.

Letting the time walk for a time is something helped me alot on these types of rivers, if u think for a time and makes like a halfbig bet many players is gonna think with KJ that you had like a flushdraw and just call you, they never folds KJ om K4322 no flush boards

but if he is a sneaky player, limpcalling AK,QQ,KK and so on i guess you could check here. but as played, vs random microstake oppo its def a riverbet imo :D

halfpot for value / call a shove.

I bet this 100%

Anything less than a shove here is TERRIBLE