[nl100] AA on monochrome flop vs floater fish

Submitted by : Socrate

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$100.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 09, 06:29:42 2008
Table Dili5 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: IamJoop ( $99.00 )
Seat 2: briquerouge ( $110.80 )
Seat 3: CRAI ( $113.05 )
Seat 4: patakama ( $87.50 )
Seat 5: Hero ( $99.00 )
Seat 6: SoCali ( $107.10 )
Hero posts the small blind [$0.50].
SoCali posts the big blind [$1.00].
Dealt to Hero

Holecards
IamJoop folds
briquerouge folds
CRAI folds
patakama calls [$1.00]
Hero raises [$4.50]
SoCali calls [$4.00]
patakama calls [$4.00]

Flop (Pot : $13.50)

   
Hero bets [$11.00]
SoCali folds
patakama calls [$11.00]

Turn (Pot : $35.50)

   
Hero checks
patakama bets [$16.00]
Hero raises [$83.00]
patakama calls [$55.50]

This patakama is a pure fish (56/0) capable of frequent floating on the turn.
Do you think it's the best line here ?

bet turn

nice?

On May 09 2008 19:20 lebowski wrote: bet turn

Thanks for this educational answer. What do I do facing a raise, then ? Don't you think a bluff-inducing check is better then a bet ?

On May 10 2008 01:47 Socrate wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2008 19:20 lebowski wrote: bet turn Thanks for this educational answer. What do I do facing a raise, then ? Don't you think a bluff-inducing check is better then a bet ?

A 56/0 seems like a typical station (the fact that he floats a lot of flops supports this). So you think he bluffs more often than valuebets from position? You could be way behind or drawing dead when you crai a passive station, so unless you know his bluffing tendencies bet the turn for value and info instead of inducing anything imho.

EDIT: I bet /fold turn or if called reevaluate river and try to vbet thin on most rivers, check/fold the rest depending on betsize c/c. The problem with your line that he quite often checks behind with those stats with many hands that he would call a second barrel, and he can take a free card to outdraw you, or get away from his hand when a scary river hits.

On May 10 2008 01:47 Socrate wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2008 19:20 lebowski wrote: bet turn Thanks for this educational answer. What do I do facing a raise, then ? Don't you think a bluff-inducing check is better then a bet ?

lol so if you are afraid he will raise u u decide to check raise him? great
bet turn to make a draw pay or check call for pot control,just don't c/r because u are turning aces into a bluff
edit: I wouldn't mind with the A of clubs though

On May 10 2008 06:56 lebowski wrote: lol so if you are afraid he will raise u u decide to check raise him? great

I'm not afraid about anything. I just wanted you to explain your answer more. Thanks for having done it.

i personally pot pot shove against a station, assuming turn/river doesn't bring a club.

i personally dont try to play nifty little mind games/moves with stations. if i'm holding a strong hand, i raise it up relentlessly

say he checked behind on turn, and a club came on river? bet you'd feel pretty silly then