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Jamie217   Canada. May 09 2008 10:29. Posts 1790


  On May 09 2008 09:12 nolan wrote:
snapfold



yup

Dzoo: I call cunt 

Fraser   Canada. May 09 2008 10:38. Posts 3490

maybe its just me, but a good villain makes this alot closer than u guys are saying? I mean in the villains eyes your range can be super wide, making this a great spot to bluff especially considering his image.

Oooooooh I am a pizza. 

Fraser   Canada. May 09 2008 10:58. Posts 3490

A big part of the question is obviously what hands he calls your turn bet with. But if hes not cbetting many flops then his turn calling range is probably decently wide.

Oooooooh I am a pizza. 

YoMeR   United States. May 09 2008 11:22. Posts 6262

so villain here is sick enough to sniff out players who bet/fold too much on rivers?

this really looks like he's raising for value here and it's doubtful he's value raising thin vs someone he doesn't have much history with.

eZ Life. 

JonnyCosMo   United States. May 09 2008 12:52. Posts 4447

A lil more interesting with the Ad imo

THEY WERE ALL CHEATING AGAINST YOU THATS WHY NOBODY PLAYED THEIR HANDS CORRECTLY AGAINST YOU AND THE DEALER TRIED TO GIVE IT AWAY BY TELLING YOU, ELEMENTARY MY DEAR FKING WATSON WTF KILL YOURSELF -Ket 

JonnyCosMo   United States. May 09 2008 12:53. Posts 4447

Do you guys fold the Ad? Curious...

THEY WERE ALL CHEATING AGAINST YOU THATS WHY NOBODY PLAYED THEIR HANDS CORRECTLY AGAINST YOU AND THE DEALER TRIED TO GIVE IT AWAY BY TELLING YOU, ELEMENTARY MY DEAR FKING WATSON WTF KILL YOURSELF -Ket 

Fayth   Canada. May 09 2008 13:43. Posts 6765

am I the only one who would check call this river more than anything?

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

locoo   Peru. May 09 2008 14:25. Posts 2520


  On May 08 2008 23:21 NMcNasty wrote:
ez fold

se proyecta la vida, mariposa tecnicolor 

NMcNasty    United States. May 09 2008 16:03. Posts 445


  On May 09 2008 10:38 Fraser wrote:
maybe its just me, but a good villain makes this alot closer than u guys are saying? I mean in the villains eyes your range can be super wide, making this a great spot to bluff especially considering his image.



thing is he doesn't have a bluffing range very often, when he checks flop and calls turn a good player is almost never going to have something like unpaired black cards, he'll almost always have at least a medium diamond or middle pair where his decision is just call or fold on the river. If he was a worse player the decision is more difficult because he's calling turn with trash more often, and he'll be more likely to make some non-thinking aggressive river move.

asdfasdf 

NMcNasty    United States. May 09 2008 16:09. Posts 445


  On May 09 2008 12:53 JonnyCosMo wrote:
Do you guys fold the Ad? Curious...



thing is the Ad isn't really that much better because I think its pretty rare he's raising this large with just the Kd for value. So basically you're still just bluff catching, but with the Ad out of his range I don't know what the hell he could be taking this line with and I would probably make a very curious call.

asdfasdf 

Fraser   Canada. May 09 2008 16:37. Posts 3490

Ok. If you're RIKD then i guess you can value bet diamonds pretty thin then here.. like 10d+

Oooooooh I am a pizza. 

consideratio   Sweden. May 09 2008 17:27. Posts 105

He's game matches that of 22 very well guys...
Whatever, you ought not to bet 2.5x PF, go 3.5x or at least 3x if you actually wanna steal the blinds in the toughest-countered way.

And, you do wanna focus your game on stealing the blinds, and stealing money from other players who steals the blinds or just spews. That is one reason that will not go away when moving up in stakes.

If you bet, bet big, if you get fought too bad, evaluate textures @ flop better, if you have to check-surrend too much and cant fight by adjusting in some check-raises with OK hands, then tight up in that position etc...

Your game will vs good opponents find need to be quite tight nomatter what size you bet preflop, and the opponents will find it easier to fight back at you profitably when you bet that small, because they will risk only like 100$ to reraise you, and when they do you will have a shitty time evaluating their ranges that might very well be adjusted vs you alone, or not, etc etc... You will be in a land of shit in the end i figure.

blaha blaha, gg no re


tae-g   United States. May 09 2008 20:04. Posts 1779


  On May 09 2008 17:27 consideratio wrote:
He's game matches that of 22 very well guys...
Whatever, you ought not to bet 2.5x PF, go 3.5x or at least 3x if you actually wanna steal the blinds in the toughest-countered way.

And, you do wanna focus your game on stealing the blinds, and stealing money from other players who steals the blinds or just spews. That is one reason that will not go away when moving up in stakes.

If you bet, bet big, if you get fought too bad, evaluate textures @ flop better, if you have to check-surrend too much and cant fight by adjusting in some check-raises with OK hands, then tight up in that position etc...

Your game will vs good opponents find need to be quite tight nomatter what size you bet preflop, and the opponents will find it easier to fight back at you profitably when you bet that small, because they will risk only like 100$ to reraise you, and when they do you will have a shitty time evaluating their ranges that might very well be adjusted vs you alone, or not, etc etc... You will be in a land of shit in the end i figure.

blaha blaha, gg no re



wat

Diagonals: oh hai guise wats goin on at this table 

Zanjong   Sweden. May 09 2008 21:07. Posts 2323

I offer coaching! Pretty decent rates.... RikD you got my msn?


TimDawg   United States. May 10 2008 12:42. Posts 6045


  On May 09 2008 20:04 tae-g wrote:
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wat
lol you beat me to it

iamalex: lol what if you were cursed by a mummy to never win showdowns. you could only play fold equity. that would suck man 

Nazgul    Netherlands. May 10 2008 12:45. Posts 4468


  On May 09 2008 10:38 Fraser wrote:
maybe its just me, but a good villain makes this alot closer than u guys are saying? I mean in the villains eyes your range can be super wide, making this a great spot to bluff especially considering his image.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

JEM87   United States. May 10 2008 22:19. Posts 49


  On May 09 2008 16:09 NMcNasty wrote:
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thing is the Ad isn't really that much better because I think its pretty rare he's raising this large with just the Kd for value. So basically you're still just bluff catching, but with the Ad out of his range I don't know what the hell he could be taking this line with and I would probably make a very curious call.


Kd is on the board and i think given how it played out kerpowski has to be raise/folding Ad instead of just calling.

this hand is an easy fold imo.


Rhaegar    Bulgaria. May 11 2008 11:25. Posts 2386

Bet sizing does not compute --> call

One very suspicious player 

RaSZi   Netherlands. May 12 2008 04:46. Posts 2938

I've found a new hero in consideratio.

Ryan Daut: rape is the simplest form of affection on our planet 

Daut    United States. May 12 2008 05:36. Posts 4263

lol at raszi's signature

I think that poker is comparable to a starcraft 2v2 where your partner is your bankroll. It really sucks when im terran and they both rush my bankroll. - Travis Victor says: sending me pokerhand is like spitting in my face 

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