<3 Koreans

its funny cuz i'm pretty sure he's soooooooooo proud and considers it an achievment

korean fighting!!^^

On May 08 2008 15:47 iakim322 wrote: yeah...fuck those koreans.

Yea, people usually say that when we take ur monies

good one subaru...good one...

I'll become one of those rare great korean poker players (I think Genius28 is korean?)

I bet all the korean poker players here at one point got motivation from watching Lee Byung Hun in All In

I'm a bit baffled that Koreans, who utterly dominate the rest of the world in strategy games such as BW and Go, don't have comparable success in poker.

I mean take yellow as an example. He was 2nd best in the world in BW, so he's obviously a very intelligent guy. Pretty much every top foreign BW player from that generation is now winning at medium or high stakes. And yet, after quite some time playing poker, he has failed to consistently win at medium + stakes and is often seen grinding micro or low stakes.

Is there something fundamentally different about poker when compared to BW or Go? All three are strategy games that require deep analysis and analytical ability. Why is it that Koreans sick rape everyone else in BW and Go but those skills do not translate over to poker?

You can talk about the environment in Korea and the levels of interest that makes it conducive to producing top notch BW players. However, that argument does not apply in Go. Japan has a much more comprehensive environment than Korea, and China also has a strong infrastructure as well as a billion + people gene pool. And yet, Korea with a population much smaller than either nation just dominates them both in Go.

And yet, there are no Korean poker players with a huge amount of success on the pro scene. I guess maybe Steve Sung is the most accomplished. Kitty and Lovedom play at high stakes but there aren't that many high stakes korean players online. And there are just loads and loads of fish that donate to rekrul's room salon fund.

Judging by their success in Go and BW, I would think that it may be just a matter of time before a lot of Koreans become hugely successful in poker. Or could it be that there is something fundamentally different about these games and their success in BW and Go won't translate over to poker?

They spew beyond comprehension.

On May 08 2008 19:03 Subaru wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 15:47 iakim322 wrote: yeah...fuck those koreans. Yea, people usually say that when we take ur monies

lol im korean but dude i have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

On May 08 2008 20:28 kimseongchan wrote: I'll become one of those rare great korean poker players (I think Genius28 is korean?) I bet all the korean poker players here at one point got motivation from watching cho seung woo in tajja

tho i do agree with you to some degree

FYP

keke Korean pride baby! XD

Hyundai and Kia are korean
(so is samsung, i think)

Submitted by : Kapol

PokerStars Game #17303184579: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/09 - 03:53:47 (ET)
Table 'Alva II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Sweet.kr ($248.55 in chips)
Seat 4: FlareMVP ($334.10 in chips)
Seat 5: kieffammax ($196.80 in chips)
Seat 6: amenracali ($100 in chips)
Magic350Z will be allowed to play after the button
vasin: is sitting out
vasin leaves the table
FlareMVP: posts small blind $1
kieffammax: posts big blind $2
amenracali: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
amenracali: checks
Sweet.kr: raises $8 to $10
FlareMVP: folds
kieffammax: raises $20 to $30
amenracali: folds
Sweet.kr: calls $20

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $63.00)

   
kieffammax: bets $40
Sweet.kr: raises $40 to $80
kieffammax: calls $40

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $223.00)

   
kieffammax: checks
Kapol joins the table at seat #3
Sweet.kr: checks

River (Pot : $223.00)

   
kieffammax: bets $86.80 and is all-in
Sweet.kr: calls $86.80

Showdown
kieffammax: shows (two pair, Tens and Nines)
Sweet.kr: shows (a full house, Tens full of Nines)
Sweet.kr collected $394.60 from pot

Summary
Total pot $396.60 | Rake $2
Board  
Seat 1: Sweet.kr (button) showed and won ($394.60) with a full house, Tens full of Nines
Seat 4: FlareMVP (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: kieffammax (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Tens and Nines
Seat 6: amenracali folded before Flop

i wish i was born korean

In starcraft, koreans - correctly - want to play the best player they can get game against, and you see them do a lot of hyper aggressive games, unlike foreigners who like to take the ekstra ekspand and pump some more factories up instead of killing him now. I think the foreigner way of playing brood war adapts much better to poker than the overaggressive - in every possible way - korean way, while the korean style has more potential in starcraft with enough training.

On May 09 2008 02:56 VanDerMeyde wrote: In starcraft, koreans - correctly - want to play the best player they can get game against, and you see them do a lot of hyper aggressive games, unlike foreigners who like to take the ekstra ekspand and pump some more factories up instead of killing him now. I think the foreigner way of playing brood war adapts much better to poker than the overaggressive - in every possible way - korean way, while the korean style has more potential in starcraft with enough training.

way to generalise the entire korean population.
koreans train their asses off for starcraft, and have hence found a very efficient way of playing.
i think we will see koreans starting to adapt and get better, and as time goes by we will be a forced to be reckoned with

oops

I am korean

Hoo rah

its really obvious why there are hardly any good korean online poker players yet. the west is way way more strategically advanced in online poker. It's been HUGE and mainstream for us for the last 5 years. Poker on TV has enjoyed huge primetime popularity. Books and twoplustwo community have been around forever. Cardrunners and training sites have been around for quite a while now too. Any english speaking westerner that decides they want to get serious about getting good (and they are many in number) has such easy access to some very good material that can 'bring them up to speed' pretty quickly. Not only is the western form of poker (texas holdem) not at all mainstream in korea like it is in the usa, but if a non-english speaking korean decides they wanna treat poker like another competitive game and try to get good, what resources do they have to help them?

oh. for the record, i'm a korean, and that damn thing looks really fake made up. but i guess maybe its not huh

On May 09 2008 07:43 Ket wrote: its really obvious why there are hardly any good korean online poker players yet. the west is way way more strategically advanced in online poker. It's been HUGE and mainstream for us for the last 5 years. Poker on TV has enjoyed huge primetime popularity. Books and twoplustwo community have been around forever. Cardrunners and training sites have been around for quite a while now too. Any english speaking westerner that decides they want to get serious about getting good (and they are many in number) has such easy access to some very good material that can 'bring them up to speed' pretty quickly. Not only is the western form of poker (texas holdem) not at all mainstream in korea like it is in the usa, but if a non-english speaking korean decides they wanna treat poker like another competitive game and try to get good, what resources do they have to help them?

business idea, ZING