[NL50] AK no actual hand FR

say you have AKo for arguments sake, and someone who you know is super standard and plays tight say 8/6 with attn to steal of 25, raises in early position or early-med position.

you are in the BB or SB and it gets folded around to you.

for arguments sake, you give them a range of AQ+ and 99+.


does anyone here ever just fold it? always 3 bet? and if you 3 bet what do you do on a non-A/K flop, bet into them always too?

this spot has been troubling me, often i just fold cos i cbf dealing with it.

cheers

i just stoved it too and its almost a tie, their range is very slightly ahead

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.861% 41.21% 08.65% 38103065 8000788.00 { AcKh }
Hand 1: 50.139% 41.49% 08.65% 38359775 8000788.00 { 99+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

is that further evidence of a fold?

well depends on the players fold to contiunation bet and agression factor imo.

vs some regulars whoms playing style i know i will 3 bet them and sometimes even shove to a 4bet.
Just cause i know that they are tight in general but i am aware that they also know i am a better regular at this limit and i am also tight and stuff.
So i have my few regulars where i 3 bet or shove here 100%

f.e there is this guy named Angel0ripper who is an insane 8/4/2 nit over 6K hands. But he also has 75% fold to flop bet and i know he will never continue without a hand.
so despite the fact he is such a tight nit i will 3bet preflop and c-bet any flop vs him 100% with ak here.

vs an kinda unknown nit i kinda prefer not to 3 bet oop
especially not when ther fold tp flop bet is < 50%

i ll just flat and check/fold or bet + get it in on A or K flop

i found from experience that 3betting and c-betting flops with AK oop vs standart nits just costed me a big amount of money

lachlan, if their range is a toss up vs ak we should be reraising them because with fold equity it makes it a pretty lucrative idea to raise in any coinflip situation.

On May 08 2008 05:47 CrownRoyal wrote: lachlan, if their range is a toss up vs ak we should be reraising them because with fold equity it makes it a pretty lucrative idea to raise in any coinflip situation.

3betting someone OOP with 50% equity vs their range is really bad with high cards. If you are doing it with suited connectors at least you'll know if you're ahead of not. If his range is so tight that AK is just flipping you can't even be that happy stacking off on A or K high boards as his 3bet calling range is far ahead.

question depends on if and what opponent 4bets, and on what he calls 3bets with

to OP: im folding AQo vs such a person, cannot fold AK here ever though(either calling or 3betting)

On May 08 2008 07:18 LazyFisH wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 05:47 CrownRoyal wrote: lachlan, if their range is a toss up vs ak we should be reraising them because with fold equity it makes it a pretty lucrative idea to raise in any coinflip situation. 3betting someone OOP with 50% equity vs their range is really bad with high cards. If you are doing it with suited connectors at least you'll know if you're ahead of not. If his range is so tight that AK is just flipping you can't even be that happy stacking off on A or K high boards as his 3bet calling range is far ahead.

rofl, im talking about coinflip situations in general and raising two high cards as a bluff isn't a bad play at all because that just removes even more premiums from the villain's range. You don't have to go to war when you repop with QJ pf and spike a J vs a nit.

that said i have no idea why we're repopping a nit with JQ out of position but uh, you get the idea

who said something about QJ ?

i guess he meant more like 67s 89s 34s and stuff
since u have easy flop descisions with them .
hit a monster draw or 2pair + = get their whole stack
dont hit -> easy fold

i'll flat a lot vs super tight players