We're experiencing the beginning of the end

I hate to say it but I think it is coming true. Games are getting tougher. Higher stakes players are moving down. Tables are more often than not filled 100% with long term regulars.

Something good needs to happen. Something in the next year or two. Otherwise, I think a lot of people are going to have to give plan B a good hard look. Unfortunately, I know I have.

I think I've mentally given up on the possibility of sustaining an acceptable win-rate(long term) that would be greater than a win-rate achievable in the real world.

[ ] youre correct

On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct

Wish I wasn't... I just think the good times are behind us unless something good happens (frank's bill, etc.). Every player I speak w/ often shares my feelings. It has always been a "what if," or "will it?" Now it seems to be a reality.

its probably over for americans...

I think youre overdoing it, its def. could be better but i dont think its worse than like a half year ago. I cant speak for highter stakes than nl400 tho, maybe its true you cant bulldoze nl2k+ anymore and be a millionare like ultra fast but thats not my problem yet :D

yeah, terrible topic, terrible content full of what ifs and shit that some heatered 1ptbb/100 lifetime poker player thinks about the online poker world.

seriously, don't do this.

On May 08 2008 04:28 byrnesam wrote: its probably over for americans...

Yea I guess I haven't given a hard look to the Euro-sites. There's also a possibility of a big asian boom (that would be AMAZING).

I just know that stars is getting somewhat rough. Good tables are now defined when a regular is tilting and you have position as opposed to having an idiot playing 40/30 spewing chips.

except for diamonds, nothing is forever

On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct

[ ] 10nl players are a good judge

On May 08 2008 04:31 CrownRoyal wrote: yeah, terrible topic, terrible content full of what ifs and shit that some heatered 1ptbb/100 lifetime poker player thinks about the online poker world. seriously, don't do this.

Seriously don't criticize someone like that when you play microstakes.

On May 08 2008 04:35 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct [ ] 10nl players are a good judge

OH SORRYLOL

[X] HE IS CORRECT BASED ON EXPERT OPINION

end of the world. quit life.

On May 08 2008 04:35 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct [ ] 10nl players are a good judge

Edit: My bad.

too much education going on -_-

ok you got me there but your topic's content sucked so bad I couldn't help it.

On May 08 2008 04:37 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 04:35 Ket wrote:   On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct [ ] 10nl players are a good judge OH SORRYLOL [X] HE IS CORRECT BASED ON EXPERT OPINION

WTF you play microstakes too. Please don't throw stones if you live in glass houses.

On May 08 2008 04:38 Maynard! wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 04:35 Ket wrote:   On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct [ ] 10nl players are a good judge ...... Just because I said I could probably earn more in the real world doesn't mean I play micro stakes. Not everyone would have to go to McDonalds if poker didn't work out pal.

He didn't quote byrnesam for no reason lol.

On May 08 2008 04:38 Maynard! wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 04:35 Ket wrote:   On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct [ ] 10nl players are a good judge ...... Just because I said I could probably earn more in the real world doesn't mean I play micro stakes. Not everyone would have to go to McDonalds if poker didn't work out pal.

[ ] he was talking to you

On May 08 2008 04:39 CrownRoyal wrote: ok you got me there but your topic's content sucked so bad I couldn't help it.

Ya I guess its a negative topic and it isn't helping anything really. I'm just genuinely concerned about this as much of my life is built around sustainability of poker money.

On May 08 2008 04:38 Maynard! wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 04:35 Ket wrote:   On May 08 2008 04:25 byrnesam wrote: [ ] youre correct [ ] 10nl players are a good judge ...... Just because I said I could probably earn more in the real world doesn't mean I play micro stakes. Not everyone would have to go to McDonalds if poker didn't work out pal.

not sure if this is another if your hilarious levelling games or something but i was responding to byrnesam in my post, not u. i agree that the games now are drying up a lot and you have to be really good and disciplined to make consistent money, much more so than ever before.