I think one of the footages was leaked and it looked something small and really really fast, probably a Missile or like a combat jet...
I dunno where they are, probably crashed somewhere else and this was plan B? i dunno only know what i see in the evidence and those 2 pics and the video are quite obvious that it wasnt a jumbo jet.
But now that we are throwng questions at each other... why do you think the pentagon collected all videos and has never released them to the public despise knowing so many ppl tought it was a hoax?
Zeitgeist is a manipulative movie.Many of the things are true but some things for example in relegion are ignored and unexplained.I do totally agree with all other parts of the movie tho coz they r not the 1st ones to prove em.
This is a very long discussion I am NOT looking forward to . If you are really interested as much as I was, do some more extended research, not just one sided pro-conspiracy... www.911myths.com is a good start to get another perspective
I give up, wasted enough time and energy on this subject a few weeks ago
anyway meaningless shit about twin towers, this discussion is about bankers or do you think its false too?
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Svenman87 United States. May 09 2008 19:00. Posts 2677
jesus i deleted like a page rant on what is wrong with this video.
anyways
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PokerDoc88 Australia. May 10 2008 03:00. Posts 2290
I've been looking on youtube for videos of different perspectives of both towers collapsing, and if you look carefully, you can see squibs of smoke very possibly due to demolition charges put in place.
I give less credit to videos which are there obviously with a conspiracy tone (because they could have easily been edited), but if you look around long enough, you'll realise you see the same videos posted by multiple people with different agendas, and you can see the squibs in all of these videos.
For instance, in this video at 3:35, 5:35 and 5:41, if you look carefully you can see weird puffs of smoke occurring 10 or more floors below the leading edge of the collapsing structure.
SneakrFreakr United Kingdom. May 10 2008 03:27. Posts 1904
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
On May 10 2008 03:27 SneakrFreakr wrote:
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
Hes about right on the ratio - anywhere from 6:1 to 12:1 on average.
Germans killed jews, gays, gypsies, etc... that lived in germany. You should educate yourself more sir.
No needs to worry about monies and being leveraged - leverage the bank by doing real estate silly peoples
On May 10 2008 03:27 SneakrFreakr wrote:
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
Germans killed jews, gays, gypsies, etc... that lived in germany. You should educate yourself more sir.
o rly? i'm talking about sth different. the fact that they were killing those people within their own territory wasn't a reason why the world war 2 started. you should learn how to read properly sir
On May 09 2008 17:19 True wrote:
What do you suggest hit pentagon then? If it wasn´t a jet, where is that jet and the passengers now?
bermuda triangle?
In my humble opinion, it is meaningless to say who is best for a blind. If someone excels, he will(must) move blind up soon. If someone stays over long period, and even if he seems good in there, he is just a fish who cant move blind up.
SneakrFreakr United Kingdom. May 10 2008 06:33. Posts 1904
On May 09 2008 17:19 True wrote:
What do you suggest hit pentagon then? If it wasn´t a jet, where is that jet and the passengers now?
The Island obv. how do u think they were filming Lost?
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
Whats the difference exactly?
It is a technical difference only!
But the controlled demolition claims or "lack of real planes" and other silly details tilt me quite a bit and make those conspiracy theorists look like clowns. Probably they know very well that they are wrong about those details but use them because they think the public is more interested in such stuff, either way I hate it
Look at that idiot and his edited videos
Look closely at the first plane. Looks like they were not edited... It's harder to see the flash in the 2nd plane, but it's visible if you really focus.
The problem with these extreme conspiracy theories is that the assumption that the number of people involved have all been kept quiet (such as the 9/11 stuff which would have taken 1000s of conspirators to explain the theories) is far less likely than assuming that some things are as yet unexplained within the orthodox theories.
JFK was obviously a conspiracy though - Oliver Stone NEVER lies.
You know there is a really good episode of South Park that explains both sides of all those 9/11 discussions and what not. The one where they have Bush laughing at how the public thinks a government run by that idiot could actually be clever enough to come up with such an awesome conspiracy. I dunno, pretty funny .
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On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
as an economist reading this makes me cringe so hard rofl
I feel your pain....
SneakrFreakr United Kingdom. May 10 2008 10:40. Posts 1904
. If you are really interested as much as I was, do some more extended research, not just one sided pro-conspiracy... 
