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http://video.google.com.au/videosearch?q=money+as+debt&hl=en&sitesearch=

have you seen this?
Just a 50 min video on how banks own you?

I reckon this is must know for everyone on this planet. And should be educated at schools

You should watch Zeitgeist


Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.

Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.

Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.

Zeitgeist was ruined for me because of the idiotic way they dealt with the first two parts of the movie... they are so obviously retarded in almost every single "proof" and attempts at logic even though the general idea seems right esp for the first part, that I have a hard time deciding if I should trust the third one where I have no knowledge at all. It's a very interesting subject though, I might watch this

Half of the Zeitgeist was stupid, mostly because i had thought about it before, and the other part, which i had given no thought, sounded reasonable. Seems to be a trend with these types of movies.

i thought banks where there to help us manage our money ;/

Just because you figured out religion was bullshit before watching zeitgeist doesnt make that part stupid, actually i found it a bit interesting since there were a few things i didnt know, not that i found it relevant but some religious people might.

i dont get why shouldnt you "trust" the third part i didnt see them make a false claim in the prior 2 parts.

someone explain the vid in 3 sentences because i dont have the bandwidth to watch a 50min vid

This is so genius. I bet you that what poker sites are doing with our money too... They assume not everyone will cash out at once so then they use up all the deposited money to open more freaking poker sites until they have about 20 different skins. I bet there is probably less than 20 percent in their reserve of all deposits made.

very intresting

On May 08 2008 05:30 JohnnyBologna wrote: This is so genius. I bet you that what poker sites are doing with our money too... They assume not everyone will cash out at once so then they use up all the deposited money to open more freaking poker sites until they have about 20 different skins. I bet there is probably less than 20 percent in their reserve of all deposits made.

yea, i wouldnt be suprised if it was even less than that

investing the $$$ is their primary source of income

On May 08 2008 05:14 Baal wrote: i dont get why shouldnt you "trust" the third part i didnt see them make a false claim in the prior 2 parts.

Baal apparently first and 2nd parts were ripped apart by lots of people on the net etc. Google imo

http://www.thegreatamericancashout.com/Home_Page.html

ye-haw

On May 08 2008 04:46 uiCk wrote: i thought banks where there to help us manage our money ;/

Banks are there to make sure you manage your money at their bank so they can use your hard earned money to make EZ money by lending it away and collecting interest.

I would recommend watching The Money Masters. It runs along the same lines as Zeitgiest but more detailed and comprehensive.

wow
pretty eye opening =]

On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: You should watch Zeitgeist Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world. Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that. Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.

as an economist reading this makes me cringe so hard rofl

banks are required to maintain a reserve ratio (in most countries though not the UK oddly enough), which is pretty much what is a "reasonable" amount to satisfy withdrawlls.

reserve ratio also limits the money multiplier effect and therefore controls money supply

dunno what everyone thought the bank did with their money, and dunno really how people can possibly complain about it either.

they cant do shit about it

On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: You should watch Zeitgeist Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world. Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that. Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.

I think the matter that troubled me the most with zeitgeist is the part about 9/11
such a huge conspiracy theory should be supported with a more thorough research and with a more scientific approach to be that easily taken for granted.
I mean I started questioning all the other stuff after I saw this part.
Everyone can find facts to support any theory,but these are serious accusations that should be looked into more thoroughly
It lost credibility imo and I'm no Bush fan either

On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: You should watch Zeitgeist Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world. Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that. Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.

QFTMFT

We live in a fucked up world imo, and the worst in this is i don't believe in god whatsoever, it means they WILL get away with it.

On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.

wat?

On May 08 2008 11:11 SneakrFreakr wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles. wat?

yeah baal always brings the crazy ass rhetoric to the table. is there anyone that can give a cliff's notes on why all of this isn't more than just some crazy conspiracy theory? or someone come in and trash this conspiracy theory? i don't really feel like watching some random youtube video for 50 min.

On May 08 2008 06:44 hkbubbletea wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 04:46 uiCk wrote: i thought banks where there to help us manage our money ;/ Banks are there to make sure you manage your money at their bank so they can use your hard earned money to make EZ money by lending it away and collecting interest. I would recommend watching The Money Masters. It runs along the same lines as Zeitgiest but more detailed and comprehensive.

Yeah the money masters is good but long as fuck

On May 08 2008 13:52 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 11:11 SneakrFreakr wrote:   On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles. wat? yeah baal always brings the crazy ass rhetoric to the table. is there anyone that can give a cliff's notes on why all of this isn't more than just some crazy conspiracy theory? or someone come in and trash this conspiracy theory? i don't really feel like watching some random youtube video for 50 min.

the OP's vid is good watch it
about zeitgeist: definately interesting but dunno how credible

baal: Adolf Hitler will never be a saint compared to any kind of person. What the fuck are you smoking?

On May 08 2008 16:54 YoMeR wrote: baal: Adolf Hitler will never be a saint compared to any kind of person. What the fuck are you smoking?

Then clearly you are not remotely aware of the damage this people have caused to the world, they are responsable for the polarization of money in the world, they have been financing all sides of all the major wars since the past century escalating conflicts into endless massacres, bringing poverty and hunger systematically for the only purpose of accelerating the already ongoing process of accumulating all the property in the world.

That is the true face of evil, not the one who stains its hands in blood in the war, but the bastard who collects the spoils after the war is over, a war he created himself.

On May 08 2008 10:43 lebowski wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: You should watch Zeitgeist Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world. Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that. Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles. I think the matter that troubled me the most with zeitgeist is the part about 9/11 such a huge conspiracy theory should be supported with a more thorough research and with a more scientific approach to be that easily taken for granted. I mean I started questioning all the other stuff after I saw this part. Everyone can find facts to support any theory,but these are serious accusations that should be looked into more thoroughly It lost credibility imo and I'm no Bush fan either

Well the point of Zeitgeist is to alert people of whats going on, they simply cannot go that deep because they have limited time and resources, however the people they "wake up" are able to research on their own, and the purpouse of zeitgeist were fulfullled if you do.

Not long ago somebody posted a video about 9/11... some guy in talking over an hour and a half in an university about how it was a controlled demolition.

TBH i were a skeptic as i usually trend to be even in a cocky fashion until i dug up some stuff, like in that video im talking about they bring up many unrefutable facts like molten metal which required 3x the amount of heat the burning of jet fuel to produce, only things like thermite can create that amount of heat, also most beams were cut in diagonal as they do in controlled demolitions, an even stronger fact is that the towers fell vertically at free fall speed they accelerated as they fell, they never found any kind of resistance, that never happens in a natural building collapse especially in the twin towers since its main collumns were in the middle making a vertical free fall nearly impossible especially in a lateral fire, the towers would have never fallen vertically and obviously never accelerating, an even stronger argument is that no building with steel structure has collapsed because of a fire, many buildings have been on fire for several several hours and they never collapsed.

Besides that theoretical evidence something left me with no doubt about it... in that video im talking about they show a lateral close up of the building, ive never seen that video before but its shocking because you can clearly see as the building is falling 3 clear lateral explosions... not like fire balls.. no, clear flash bang like detonations on the flors below as the building is collapsing after that i have no doubt in my mind those were obvious demolition charges.

Its not really shocking anyway i mean... killing a couple thousand in the twin towers is a much smaller sacrifice than what they did to enter the 1st world war they killed far mroe people (% population wise), its a common practice sadly

On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.

I don't have stats or interesting facts but that doesn't matter. this is just a fucked up statement

On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote: You should watch Zeitgeist Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world. Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that. Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.

I knew u were a beaner... didnt know you were a Nazi. Learn new things everyday

I get baals point and i reckon Hitler was just a pawn in their hands

Just throwing this out because it seems to fit the tone of the thread:
Failed plot to overthrow the U.S. government and install a Fascist dictatorship that swept under the rug. Plot allgedly included U.S. Steel (Morgan), Standard Oil (Rockefeller), Chase National Bank (Rockefeller), and maybe even Bush's Granddaddy.

but ya, the bankers finance all the wars and subsequently profit from them.

I kind of agree with Baal that "killing a couple thousand in the twin towers is a much smaller sacrifice than what they did to enter the 1st world war they killed far mroe people (% population wise), its a common practice sadly" but after reading/watching a lot of material I definitely don't agree with silly theories like planting explosives in all those buildings or using remote control planes with attached laser weapons lol... 95% of people who make those conspiracy movies are no talent sick attention whores and also some of them try to win easy money selling the same recycled ideas often with grossly edited videos and information, quoting unknown clueless morons.

About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...

On May 09 2008 02:21 Breeze wrote: About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...

Whats the difference exactly?