100NL 33: 177bb deep with set on turn

Villain is 33/23/2.5 over 380 hands. I haven't got into any large pots with him this session.

Note on him: he slowplayed with a set OOP, checking down all streets when others in the pot were checking as well.

My image at the table is pretty aggressive. I'm running at 33/26/20 over 96 hands.

Submitted by : Maz

PokerStars Game #17252159102: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/05/06 - 20:19:44 (ET)
Table 'Denebola III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: JonnyC5207 ($90.45 in chips)
Seat 2: karelbluf ($15.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Valf ($187.25 in chips)
Seat 4: jett1z ($121.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($176.60 in chips)
Seat 6: le gentil ($79.45 in chips)
le gentil: posts small blind $0.50
JonnyC5207: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
karelbluf: calls $1
Valf: raises $3 to $4
jett1z: folds
Hero : calls $4
le gentil: folds
JonnyC5207: folds
karelbluf: calls $3

Flop (Pot : $13.50)

   
karelbluf: checks
Valf: checks
Hero : checks

Turn (Pot : $13.50)

   
karelbluf: checks
Valf: bets $4
Hero : raises $13.50 to $17.50
karelbluf: folds
Valf: raises $20.50 to $38
Hero : raises $41 to $79
Valf: raises $104.25 to $183.25 and is all-in
Hero : calls $93.60 and is all-in

There is just no way he is value betting worse when he sticks $170 into a $13 pot - he is telling you he has a better set. And his flop check followed by the $4 bet is telling you it's exactly AA. So it's just a matter of whether you believe him or not.

I don't think he is ever semibluffing because based on your description I think he bets 10-8hh on the flop.

FOLD

On May 06 2008 19:15 royalsu wrote: FOLD

Valf: raises $20.50 to $38

call for quads!!

what shaunR said, im not expecting you to be good here >25% of the time

33/23 can have 2 pairs here like 50% of time. If it was deeper I just call turn 3bet, but here u cant since u are allin on i the river. WP.

Oh, and even if u r beat u have still outs ...

Man look at his betting pattern. Check flop, bet 1/3 pot on turn with 2 pair? Then go nuts?

This is not two pair. This is AA or monkey tilt.

well he is really so bad that u could have saved your stack
raises 4bb with a limper utg, checks flop bets turn like a retard,this guy is begging for action

and nobody 6bets 93$ more with a bluff
this is AA 100% imo

You can safely assume villain is bluffing here maybe .0000001% of the time when he's on uber life tilt or something.

so if you know he stacks off nearly 2 buys deep with top 2 then this would make it a snap call. Another thing to note: does he raise suited aces from any pos as well? this will make it more or less likely depending on the answer to this question.

in a vacuum this is probably closer to a fold.

also: without the proper image i would flat the 3 bet on the turn and proceed from there. wtf is villain calling a 4 bet there with? You get almost no value from weaker hands at all.

he slowplayed with a set OOP -- you just answered your own question

ok in this scenario is obvious that he have bigger set, but I can't fold this vs 33/23/2.5 ,maybe I''ll fold it for 200bb but for 100bb never

so what happens wnen the flop is A93 rainbow and whe have AI decision for 200bb with botom set on the flop
we are AI
with 33 you can't wait for quads lol

maybe not raise the 2nd time on turn. i think you will get more value from worse hands.

On May 13 2008 01:16 jully wrote: maybe I''ll fold it for 200bb but for 100bb never

we're not 100bb deep.