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WingSandrockX   Canada. May 06 2008 16:17. Posts 8

Ok well, I made a really bad play.. I already know that but I'm wondering what would you guys have done?

I was left of the Button and I was holding 10/10, I raised to $15 and everyone(7 players at the table excluding me) folded but the Button(to my right), he calls

Flop comes 2/A/3 rainbow

I was first to act, so I wanted to put in a feeler bet and put $10 into a $37-$40 pot, he re-raised to $45, so here I'm thinking "Does he have an ace? What hand would he be playing with?"

He was the chip leader with about $500 and I was short stack with about $70(Down to like $50 after betting $10 on the flop)

For some reason I put him on AJ but I don't know...I wanted to call but I think he had an ace..

What would you guys have done in this situation differently? And what do you think he has?

PS: This was at a cash game @ Casino not internet

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lebowski   Greece. May 06 2008 16:42. Posts 9205

see if he plays with his oreos

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

chipsOwner   Czech Republic. May 07 2008 03:22. Posts 529

i would buyin for 100bbs in the first place. as i understand it you had like 20bbs or something right?


Sjorris   Netherlands. May 07 2008 03:53. Posts 31

left of the button but you're first to act preflop? errr

On the hand, he probably has an ace, but you can't possibly know just from the action. Next time either commit on the flop or check/fold. If the feeler bet didn't give you any information at all, then why did you make it?
Furthermore, just buy in for more or sit at a lower stakes table.


kantoiki   Australia. May 07 2008 04:29. Posts 3818

lol

muckv - i have an iq of 180 and i want someone to teach me how to take a shit IN the toilet. 

Twisted    Netherlands. May 07 2008 05:50. Posts 10422

So it was like 200NL and you had 70$? Might as well just shove it preflop lol.


rogier   Netherlands. May 07 2008 06:04. Posts 1528

eh what

so you raise 15bbs preflop?
chipleader? it aint a tournament t.t


WingSandrockX   Canada. May 07 2008 23:29. Posts 8

Hmm...NO I wasn't first to act pre-flop...I was first to act AFTER the flop, since he was the button

Also I'm not totally sure on how this forum works, but this is 1/2NL table(not sure why I put [NL100], probably to fit in with the crowd... LOL...Maybe it should have been [NL200]?)

It's 1/2 NL, I bought in for $100 got some good outs but didn't hit them, so was down to like $60ish

I used the 50 * BB(2) rule to buy in, which equals to $100

 Last edit: 07/05/2008 23:32

neveragain   Canada. May 08 2008 00:29. Posts 188


  On May 07 2008 22:29 WingSandrockX wrote:
Hmm...NO I wasn't first to act pre-flop...I was first to act AFTER the flop, since he was the button

Also I'm not totally sure on how this forum works, but this is 1/2NL table(not sure why I put [NL100], probably to fit in with the crowd... LOL...Maybe it should have been [NL200]?)

It's 1/2 NL, I bought in for $100 got some good outs but didn't hit them, so was down to like $60ish

I used the 50 * BB(2) rule to buy in, which equals to $100




You need to learn a lot more about poker before you start playing with hundreds of dollars.

Your situation is difficult because you don't have enough money behind you. As played, a bigger flop bet would be better because if he still plays with you, he'll be sure you have an A and a call or a raise will mean you're beaten. Your small bet is a tell of your weakness and an aggressive player could raise you with nothing. A shove preflop with TT for 70 (35BBs) after 5 or so limpers is not bad either.. You're likely ahead and would want to commit the most money then.

Basically if you want to learn poker start playing online with pennies and you'll be good after a year and a half.


egood   United States. May 08 2008 01:23. Posts 1883

i think u got unlucky mate. keep trying.


WingSandrockX   Canada. May 08 2008 22:35. Posts 8

Anyone else wants to chime in?


Python817   Canada. May 08 2008 23:25. Posts 2733

is this a level?


musclewheels   Canada. May 09 2008 00:12. Posts 107

So you bet for information, he gives you some information, and then you want to ignore said information and call anyways? Brilliant


DaTruf   United States. May 09 2008 04:25. Posts 398

since you're short stacked and out of position and the only person/people in the pot have limped, go ahead and raise enough preflop to make the flop an easy shove, shoving is preflop is fine too. but as played you should probably just bet and fold to a raise.


tae-g   United States. May 09 2008 10:33. Posts 1782


  On May 09 2008 03:25 DaTruf wrote:
since you're short stacked and out of position and the only person/people in the pot have limped, go ahead and raise enough preflop to make the flop an easy shove, shoving is preflop is fine too. but as played you should probably just feeler bet to find out if hes blufzin or not blufzin and fold to a raise.



fyp

Diagonals: oh hai guise wats goin on at this table 

TianYuan    Korea (South). May 09 2008 11:05. Posts 6817

Don't buyin for less than 100bb. If 100bb feels too big for you, you probably don't have the proper bankroll (between 20 and 30 buyins - that is 100bb buyins - is standard). I would recommend learning to play by playing the microstakes online, before playing with significant sums of money (which 200$ is to most, of course it depends, it could be nothing at all to you ).

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

YoMeR   United States. May 09 2008 12:38. Posts 12438

I use much more aggressive bankroll management in live games as you're playing way less hands an hr at like 10x the winrate thus having lower varience than online as you'll usually only swing up anyway. I generally play with only about 10-15 buyins and even play a bit out of my roll if the games are especially good. (usually in live games all the games are nice and juicy anyway)

and dude you have $70 vs a standard button raise with TT. how is this not a shove? Short stack poker is ridiculously easy to play as you make all of your decisions preflop and don't have to make any tricky decisions post flop making this insanely profitable for a weak player with bad post flop skills as he/she won't make many mistakes or as many mistakes as the other players at the table as they won't adjust to shortstackers properly (most people can't/don't)
Basically with less than 50bb's you're going to be either push/folding as you really don't have much room to maneuver after the flop anyway so once you raise or 3 bet a hand. the money will go in almost always.

eZ Life. 

YoMeR   United States. May 09 2008 12:38. Posts 12438

oh and feeler bets are retarded and spewy please don't do it.

eZ Life. 

WingSandrockX   Canada. May 09 2008 16:22. Posts 8

I raised to $15 Pre-flop with 10/10, it went all the way around to him since I raised and he called.

I was SB he was Dealer.

Flop came and I bet $10, he re-raised to 45 and I folded

You need 100bb's to play? I read somewhere on here about the 50 * BB rule?

Well I didn't buy in with less then $100(50BB's) I just had some unlucky draws which set me down about $30ish.

If he raised or he re-raised me PRE-FLOP, I'm obviously calling cause I can't see the ace or any over cards on the flop yet.

I played online a few times, with $20(friend gave me), long story short, $500 in profit in 1-2months. $200 was from a Freeroll tournament thought =/ Only $500 nothing to brag about since a lot of you guys on here make money in 4-5 digits.

I don't have a CC to play online, so I just ignore it and play at casino


  On May 08 2008 23:12 musclewheels wrote:
So you bet for information, he gives you some information, and then you want to ignore said information and call anyways? Brilliant



LOL, no I took that "information" and folded, but I didn't know if that was false information or so.


 



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