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ya'll be nits and ya'll be broke

On May 09 2008 07:29 Rekrul wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2008 19:02 [vital]Myth wrote:   On May 06 2008 22:11 Ket wrote:   On May 06 2008 13:18 [vital]Myth wrote:   On May 06 2008 09:31 Ket wrote:   On May 06 2008 08:46 [vital]Myth wrote: if you c/r flop you have to lead the turn. i mean think about it...if you were bluffing, the turn card would be an excellent card to continue, repping JJJ really?? i think you're totally off the mark here, imo that turn pairing J is actually an extremely bad card to continue bluffs (possibly worst card in deck). id definitely check the turn a decent amount here in joe's spot to balance my range with bluffs i gave up on because the jack fell. against a typical good aggressive regular opponent, after I've decided to check the turn and he has bet id def think c/c twice is usually the best line to proceed. i like how joe played the whole hand except the preflop call (id fold, i think its -ev to try and play AJo out of position for 4bb against a tough aggressive regular raising utg), now pay off on the river. you really don't think people peel one and then fold if you fire on this turn? i find that most people who flat the flop are usually folding to another barrel when nothing really changes on the board (such as top card pairing) no. if they fold turn when u fire again they were peeling ridic light on the flop cause they thought u were fos and were trying to float to later bluff or improve. If they were peeling flop cause they thought their hand was good and didnt respect ur c/r flop, the jack is a great card for them to see for most of their range cause they either improve or feel more confident in their second pair/pocket tens/etc. i thought every good player knew that as a general rule of thumb, the worst cards to continue bluffing on are the ones that dont change the board (ofcourse there are exceptions to every rule). i feel like im having to explain some really basic stuff here. i think i'm leveling myself, assuming people will figure that you can't continue bluffing on a card that changes nothing -.- fuck that dude just keep pumping it the cards dont matter just make them believe

Hehe I hope to see u play this year in Vegas, I really wanna see if u really play the way u seem to from the comments I got to work on making people believe, but some, especially live, players, are too hardcore unbelievers...

rekrul is probably tighter than you preflop
but then he shits more than a goose with diarreah after the flop so who cares if hes tight pre

anyway the most important thing said in this thread is one small statement by ket. try and find it

"the worst cards to continue bluffing on are the ones that dont change the board"

!?

didn't bother reading all his posts

My guess is that Daut meant this:
"i think its -ev to try and play AJo out of position for 4bb against a tough aggressive regular raising utg."

why are you posting this? snapcall and beat his weak J

given everything else in the hand this isnt really important but i dont think anyone said isnt the amount you c/r on the flop pretty awfully weak?