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Forrest Gump   Argentina. May 06 2008 00:01. Posts 1030

I remember myself playing somewhat nitty, like 23/14/3 and quiet postflop. I played with this players more than 70 hands
opener is a fish who raises around 10% pf, but he doesnt spew postflop and villian is a 14/11 nit or so
Based on his nittiness and position I put him on a decent hand to call pf, like a pair or AQ+

Flop play is questionable as well, cb 1/2 pot was to decrease the obviousness of my hand and give confidence to smaller overpairs

Turn check was to not put enough pressure on them if he had a medium pair and to lose less against FH. River check was obvious to me that I had to valuebet something, so I decided to take a little time lapse (acting some kind of doubt) before betting half pot when this happened

Fold, Call or Thin vb Shove?
No history behind us
Half pot was to get a crying call from A high

What do you think about betsizings?

EDIT: erased the possibility of him having a flush draw becouse I had Ah, and I add that he called quickly pf to put him exactly in a pair

Submitted by : Forrest Gump

PokerStars Game #17234382204: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/06 - 00:32:33 (ET)
Table Xanthippe 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Duckslayer2k ($232.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($436.70 in chips)
Seat 3: blackcr ($188 in chips)
Seat 4: agstremist ($278.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Minetta755 ($778.70 in chips)
Seat 6: shlom ($451.20 in chips)
agstremist: posts small blind $1
Minetta755: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero AcAh
shlom: raises $4 to $6
Duckslayer2k: folds
Hero : raises $18 to $24
blackcr: folds
agstremist: folds
Minetta755: calls $22
shlom: calls $18

Flop (Pot : $73.00)

   3h7c2h
Minetta755: checks
shlom: checks
Hero : bets $35
Minetta755: calls $35
shlom: folds

Turn (Pot : $143.00)

   3h7c2h3s
Minetta755: checks
Hero : checks

River (Pot : $143.00)

   3h7c2h3s7s
Minetta755: checks
Hero : bets $72
Minetta755: raises $178 to $250
Hero :

ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play?Last edit: 06/05/2008 11:39

Forrest Gump   Argentina. May 06 2008 00:05. Posts 1030

I think I didnt 3betted at that table before, so I knew I was gonna get some kind of respect of a good hand (or get setmined -_-)

ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play? 

Twisted    Netherlands. May 06 2008 00:22. Posts 6303

It depends if he's bad enough to play 67 here or something.


SakiSaki    Sweden. May 06 2008 00:29. Posts 7513

bet turn call river

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gawdawaful   Canada. May 06 2008 00:46. Posts 5127

I'm jamming here. I just think a 14/11 is far more likely to cold call a 3 bet OOP with a big pair as oppose to set mining small pairs. Plus, your line doesnt exactly reek of strength up to this point.

Im only good at poker when I run goodLast edit: 06/05/2008 00:55

Baal   . May 06 2008 00:56. Posts 16642


  On May 06 2008 00:29 SakiSaki wrote:
bet turn call river

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EmKey   Poland. May 06 2008 01:38. Posts 579

whats with the dinky bets ? bet it like a man so u wont get yourself in those spots.

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ck20   . May 06 2008 02:24. Posts 632

wtf is this


Bluffed1331   United States. May 06 2008 03:21. Posts 99

hate flop bet sizing, hate turn check, as played call river

Its Free To Fold... 

Royal_Rumble   Germany. May 06 2008 04:59. Posts 1309

he has 72o.

Daut: its just like in poker. people play hands faceu p and you ignore them because you are too stubborn to realize some things are losing propositions. just believe me this would be very easy 

royalsu   Canada. May 06 2008 05:47. Posts 2262

wow I bomb the flop for 60, turn for 140, shove river. He's got QQ KK here a lot.

this is a dream spot because he's never folding an overpair to any flop bet.


Riekus   Netherlands. May 06 2008 05:56. Posts 47

3 bet higher pf


TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. May 06 2008 08:57. Posts 2802

how do you check turn


Forrest Gump   Argentina. May 06 2008 11:41. Posts 1030


  On May 06 2008 01:38 EmKey wrote:
whats with the dinky bets ? bet it like a man so u wont get yourself in those spots.



Edited OP
and about tough spots, I dont mind it as long as it's gonna be more profitable

ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play? 

Forrest Gump   Argentina. May 06 2008 11:44. Posts 1030

Didn't shove becouse he was representing bottom FH or quads
He said he was bluffing. I dunno if it was correct to shove

Submitted by : Forrest Gump

PokerStars Game #17234382204: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/06 - 00:32:33 (ET)
Table Xanthippe 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Duckslayer2k ($232.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($436.70 in chips)
Seat 3: blackcr ($188 in chips)
Seat 4: agstremist ($278.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Minetta755 ($778.70 in chips)
Seat 6: shlom ($451.20 in chips)
agstremist: posts small blind $1
Minetta755: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero AcAh
shlom: raises $4 to $6
Duckslayer2k: folds
Hero : raises $18 to $24
blackcr: folds
agstremist: folds
Minetta755: calls $22
shlom: calls $18

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $73.00)

   3h7c2h
Minetta755: checks
shlom: checks
Hero : bets $35
Minetta755: calls $35
shlom: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $143.00)

   3h7c2h3s
Minetta755: checks
Hero : checks

River (Pot : $143.00)

   3h7c2h3s7s
Minetta755: checks
Hero : bets $72
Minetta755: raises $178 to $250
Hero : calls $178

Showdown
Minetta755: shows 9c9s (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
Hero : shows AcAh (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
Hero collected $640 from pot

Summary
Total pot $643 | Rake $3
Board  3h7c2h3s7s
Seat 1: Duckslayer2k folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Hero showed AcAh and won ($640) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: blackcr (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: agstremist (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Minetta755 (big blind) showed 9c9s and lost with two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 6: shlom folded on the Flop

ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play? 

Forrest Gump   Argentina. May 06 2008 11:46. Posts 1030

Put him exactly on a hand like that untill his big raise. Just wanted to extract value and got more than expected ...

ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play?Last edit: 06/05/2008 11:46

traxamillion   United States. May 06 2008 14:47. Posts 1883

looks like he picked an unbelievable garbage spot to bluff; guy must be pretty unaware of his stats/image

he represents nothing with that bluff I don't even think its spewy to jam on it

why would he risk checking a nut hand on the river on this board with that action also


Loco   Canada. May 06 2008 15:44. Posts 13721


  On May 06 2008 05:47 royalsu wrote:
wow I bomb the flop for 60, turn for 140, shove river. He's got QQ KK here a lot.

this is a dream spot because he's never folding an overpair to any flop bet.

tho 25nl with 250 roll is stupid tho started with 50 2 day ago ..i stick 10nl sometimes get bored and give 25nl shot but noone gives respct since i have very aggro hydralist icon - wolfheart 

Sjorris   Netherlands. May 06 2008 16:09. Posts 29

Keep on bettin'. No point in slowing down, the turn is essentially a brick.

I don't see him checking the sevens full ever to you after you checked the turn behind, so I'd call this river (unless he's very passive and you've seen hem check down monsters oop a few times).


TalentedTom    Canada. May 06 2008 16:41. Posts 9168

Why are you 3-betting preflop if you don't plan on playing a big pot flop play is fine, I'd continue half potting every street.
As played river is a very easy call since most mid stakes players do not not have the discpline to check the river with a full house or better after the player with the lead checks the turn. I'd be more worried about a lead out rather than a CR, but on this board im not worried at all

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