NL200 river tough desicion 216BB deep

I remember myself playing somewhat nitty, like 23/14/3 and quiet postflop. I played with this players more than 70 hands
opener is a fish who raises around 10% pf, but he doesnt spew postflop and villian is a 14/11 nit or so
Based on his nittiness and position I put him on a decent hand to call pf, like a pair or AQ+

Flop play is questionable as well, cb 1/2 pot was to decrease the obviousness of my hand and give confidence to smaller overpairs

Turn check was to not put enough pressure on them if he had a medium pair and to lose less against FH. River check was obvious to me that I had to valuebet something, so I decided to take a little time lapse (acting some kind of doubt) before betting half pot when this happened

Fold, Call or Thin vb Shove?
No history behind us
Half pot was to get a crying call from A high

What do you think about betsizings?

EDIT: erased the possibility of him having a flush draw becouse I had Ah, and I add that he called quickly pf to put him exactly in a pair

Submitted by : Forrest Gump

PokerStars Game #17234382204: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/06 - 00:32:33 (ET)
Table Xanthippe 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Duckslayer2k ($232.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($436.70 in chips)
Seat 3: blackcr ($188 in chips)
Seat 4: agstremist ($278.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Minetta755 ($778.70 in chips)
Seat 6: shlom ($451.20 in chips)
agstremist: posts small blind $1
Minetta755: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
shlom: raises $4 to $6
Duckslayer2k: folds
Hero : raises $18 to $24
blackcr: folds
agstremist: folds
Minetta755: calls $22
shlom: calls $18

Flop (Pot : $73.00)

   
Minetta755: checks
shlom: checks
Hero : bets $35
Minetta755: calls $35
shlom: folds

Turn (Pot : $143.00)

   
Minetta755: checks
Hero : checks

River (Pot : $143.00)

   
Minetta755: checks
Hero : bets $72
Minetta755: raises $178 to $250
Hero :

I think I didnt 3betted at that table before, so I knew I was gonna get some kind of respect of a good hand (or get setmined -_-)

It depends if he's bad enough to play 67 here or something.

bet turn call river

I'm jamming here. I just think a 14/11 is far more likely to cold call a 3 bet OOP with a big pair as oppose to set mining small pairs. Plus, your line doesnt exactly reek of strength up to this point.

On May 06 2008 00:29 SakiSaki wrote: bet turn call river

whats with the dinky bets ? bet it like a man so u wont get yourself in those spots.

wtf is this

hate flop bet sizing, hate turn check, as played call river

he has 72o.

wow I bomb the flop for 60, turn for 140, shove river. He's got QQ KK here a lot.

this is a dream spot because he's never folding an overpair to any flop bet.

3 bet higher pf

how do you check turn

On May 06 2008 01:38 EmKey wrote: whats with the dinky bets ? bet it like a man so u wont get yourself in those spots.

Edited OP
and about tough spots, I dont mind it as long as it's gonna be more profitable

Didn't shove becouse he was representing bottom FH or quads
He said he was bluffing. I dunno if it was correct to shove

Submitted by : Forrest Gump

PokerStars Game #17234382204: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/06 - 00:32:33 (ET)
Table Xanthippe 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Duckslayer2k ($232.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($436.70 in chips)
Seat 3: blackcr ($188 in chips)
Seat 4: agstremist ($278.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Minetta755 ($778.70 in chips)
Seat 6: shlom ($451.20 in chips)
agstremist: posts small blind $1
Minetta755: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
shlom: raises $4 to $6
Duckslayer2k: folds
Hero : raises $18 to $24
blackcr: folds
agstremist: folds
Minetta755: calls $22
shlom: calls $18

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $73.00)

   
Minetta755: checks
shlom: checks
Hero : bets $35
Minetta755: calls $35
shlom: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $143.00)

   
Minetta755: checks
Hero : checks

River (Pot : $143.00)

   
Minetta755: checks
Hero : bets $72
Minetta755: raises $178 to $250
Hero : calls $178

Showdown
Minetta755: shows (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
Hero : shows (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
Hero collected $640 from pot

Summary
Total pot $643 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: Duckslayer2k folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Hero showed and won ($640) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: blackcr (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: agstremist (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Minetta755 (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 6: shlom folded on the Flop

Put him exactly on a hand like that untill his big raise. Just wanted to extract value and got more than expected ...

looks like he picked an unbelievable garbage spot to bluff; guy must be pretty unaware of his stats/image

he represents nothing with that bluff I don't even think its spewy to jam on it

why would he risk checking a nut hand on the river on this board with that action also

On May 06 2008 05:47 royalsu wrote: wow I bomb the flop for 60, turn for 140, shove river. He's got QQ KK here a lot. this is a dream spot because he's never folding an overpair to any flop bet.

Keep on bettin'. No point in slowing down, the turn is essentially a brick.

I don't see him checking the sevens full ever to you after you checked the turn behind, so I'd call this river (unless he's very passive and you've seen hem check down monsters oop a few times).

Why are you 3-betting preflop if you don't plan on playing a big pot flop play is fine, I'd continue half potting every street.
As played river is a very easy call since most mid stakes players do not not have the discpline to check the river with a full house or better after the player with the lead checks the turn. I'd be more worried about a lead out rather than a CR, but on this board im not worried at all