The LEGEND vs The DONK

Neilly vs ket two tabling 5/10 HU on stars!!

jesus Neilly you need Bankroll management and table selection for crying outloud.

Also it is worth noting he is hiding from search just goto tirza and olshaniya

Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1214 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1000 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $5
Born2DogBaby: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
NeillyAA: raises $20 to $30
Born2DogBaby: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [3d Jd 5s]
Born2DogBaby: checks
NeillyAA: bets $40
Born2DogBaby: raises $95 to $135
NeillyAA: raises $240 to $375
Born2DogBaby: raises $595 to $970 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $595
*** TURN *** [3d Jd 5s]
*** RIVER *** [3d Jd 5s Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Born2DogBaby: shows [2d Kd] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
NeillyAA: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $1999.50 from pot

Seat 1: NeillyAA ($204 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($2009.50 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $5
Born2DogBaby: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
NeillyAA said, "...."
NeillyAA: raises $194 to $204 and is all-in
Born2DogBaby: calls $194
*** FLOP *** [2c 6c Qh]
*** TURN *** [2c 6c Qh]
NeillyAA said, "ship it"
*** RIVER *** [2c 6c Qh 5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Born2DogBaby: shows [Ah 8s] (high card Ace)
NeillyAA: shows [Qc 2s] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
NeillyAA collected $407.50 from pot

On May 04 2008 18:02 alphablend wrote: jesus Neilly you need Bankroll management and table selection for crying outloud. Also it is worth noting he is hiding from search just goto tirza and olshaniya

plz

Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1003 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1196.50 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $5
Born2DogBaby: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
NeillyAA: raises $20 to $30
Born2DogBaby: raises $75 to $105
NeillyAA: calls $75
*** FLOP *** [6d Js 7d]
Born2DogBaby: bets $160
NeillyAA: raises $280 to $440
Born2DogBaby: raises $651.50 to $1091.50 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $458 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6d Js 7d]
*** RIVER *** [6d Js 7d 4h]
NeillyAA said, "..SHIP"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Born2DogBaby: shows [7h 6h] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
NeillyAA: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $2005.50 from pot
NeillyAA said, "NO"

tehskies [observer]: what did you muck?
dalinkrules [observer]: BUSTO IMO
NeillyAA: 2 pair

Seat 1: NeillyAA ($712.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1650 in chips)
Born2DogBaby: posts small blind $5
NeillyAA: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Born2DogBaby: raises $20 to $30
NeillyAA: raises $80 to $110
Born2DogBaby: raises $1540 to $1650 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $602.20 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [7h 9d 9h]
*** TURN *** [7h 9d 9h]
*** RIVER *** [7h 9d 9h Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NeillyAA: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Born2DogBaby: mucks hand
NeillyAA collected $1423.90 from pot

are the hands correctly formatted to you guys?

Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1608.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1139 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $5
Born2DogBaby: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
NeillyAA: raises $20 to $30
Born2DogBaby: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [4c 2c Qd]
Born2DogBaby: checks
NeillyAA: bets $40
Born2DogBaby: raises $95 to $135
NeillyAA: calls $95
*** TURN *** [4c 2c Qd]
Born2DogBaby: checks
NeillyAA: checks
*** RIVER *** [4c 2c Qd Ad]
Born2DogBaby: bets $180
NeillyAA: calls $180
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Born2DogBaby: shows [9c Kd] (high card Ace)
NeillyAA: shows [Qh Th] (a pair of Queens)
NeillyAA collected $689.50 from pot

On May 04 2008 18:07 Oddeye wrote: are the hands correctly formatted to you guys?

im way too lazy to use the converter, i can read those fine tho !

Submitted by : TwistedEcho

PokerStars Game #17207841253: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/04 - 21:12:26 (ET)
Table 'Tirza V' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1951.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($998 in chips)
Born2DogBaby: posts small blind $5
NeillyAA: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Born2DogBaby: raises $10 to $20
NeillyAA: raises $50 to $70
Born2DogBaby: raises $150 to $220
NeillyAA: raises $1731.90 to $1951.90 and is all-in
Born2DogBaby: folds
NeillyAA collected $440 from pot

Summary
Total pot $440 | Rake $0
Seat 1: NeillyAA (big blind) collected ($440)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

lol @ playing ket

Submitted by : Catul

PokerStars Game #17207925021: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/04 - 21:16:22 (ET)
Table 'Tirza V' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1916.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1252.50 in chips)
Born2DogBaby: posts small blind $5
NeillyAA: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Born2DogBaby: raises $20 to $30
NeillyAA: raises $80 to $110
Born2DogBaby: raises $125 to $235
NeillyAA: raises $440 to $675
Born2DogBaby: raises $577.50 to $1252.50 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $577.50

Flop (Pot : $2,505.00)

   

Turn (Pot : $2,505.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,505.00)

   

Showdown
NeillyAA: shows (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
Born2DogBaby: mucks hand
NeillyAA collected $2504.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $2505 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (big blind) showed and won ($2504.50) with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby (button) (small blind) mucked

Submitted by : TwistedEcho

PokerStars Game #17207925021: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/04 - 21:16:22 (ET)
Table 'Tirza V' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1916.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1252.50 in chips)
Born2DogBaby: posts small blind $5
NeillyAA: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Born2DogBaby: raises $20 to $30
NeillyAA: raises $80 to $110
Born2DogBaby: raises $125 to $235
NeillyAA: raises $440 to $675
Born2DogBaby: raises $577.50 to $1252.50 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $577.50

Flop (Pot : $2,505.00)

   

Turn (Pot : $2,505.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,505.00)

   

Showdown
NeillyAA: shows (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
Born2DogBaby: mucks hand
NeillyAA collected $2504.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $2505 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (big blind) showed and won ($2504.50) with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby (button) (small blind) mucked

Submitted by : Catul

PokerStars Game #17207937840: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/04 - 21:16:58 (ET)
Table 'Tirza V' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($3168.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1000 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $5
Born2DogBaby: posts big blind $10

Holecards
NeillyAA: raises $20 to $30
NeillyAA said, "go 10/20?"
Born2DogBaby: calls $20

Flop (Pot : $60.00)

   
Born2DogBaby: checks
NeillyAA said, "jk"
NeillyAA said, ""
Born2DogBaby said, "ok"
NeillyAA: bets $40
Born2DogBaby: raises $95 to $135
NeillyAA: raises $340 to $475
Born2DogBaby: raises $495 to $970 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $495

Turn (Pot : $2,000.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,000.00)

   

Showdown
Born2DogBaby: shows (a flush, Ace high)
NeillyAA: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $1999.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $2000 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (button) (small blind) mucked
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby (big blind) showed and won ($1999.50) with a flush, Ace high

over?

NeillyAA: i had two pair
NeillyAA: on the flop

Still going

Submitted by : TwistedEcho

PokerStars Game #17207972559: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/04 - 21:18:35 (ET)
Table 'Tirza V' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($2072.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($2094 in chips)
Born2DogBaby: posts small blind $5
NeillyAA: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Born2DogBaby: raises $20 to $30
NeillyAA: raises $80 to $110
Born2DogBaby: calls $80

Flop (Pot : $220.00)

   
NeillyAA: checks
Born2DogBaby: checks

Turn (Pot : $220.00)

   
NeillyAA: bets $150
Born2DogBaby: calls $150

River (Pot : $520.00)

   
NeillyAA: checks
Born2DogBaby: bets $425
NeillyAA: calls $425

Showdown
Born2DogBaby: shows (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
NeillyAA: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $1369.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1370 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (big blind) mucked
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby (button) (small blind) showed and won ($1369.50) with two pair, Eights and Sixes

lol twopairaments

Submitted by : TwistedEcho

PokerStars Game #17208009038: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/04 - 21:20:18 (ET)
Table 'Tirza V' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($972.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($3192.50 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $5
Born2DogBaby: posts big blind $10

Holecards
NeillyAA: raises $20 to $30
Born2DogBaby: raises $75 to $105
NeillyAA: calls $75

Flop (Pot : $210.00)

   
Born2DogBaby: bets $160
NeillyAA: calls $160

Turn (Pot : $530.00)

   
Born2DogBaby: bets $265
NeillyAA: raises $442.40 to $707.40 and is all-in
Born2DogBaby: calls $442.40

River (Pot : $1,944.80)

   

Showdown
Born2DogBaby: shows (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
NeillyAA: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $1944.30 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1944.80 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (button) (small blind) mucked
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby (big blind) showed and won ($1944.30) with two pair, Queens and Sixes

dalinkrules [observer]: NIGGA U DONE
dalinkrules [observer]: U DONE
dalinkrules [observer]: U GOT SERVED

Rofl ^^^^^

TOO SLOW THIS TIME CATUL !

you got me with your comment on the table !

why cant i find this table?

well Neilly is busto AGAIN :/

haha at his "SHIP"

Submitted by : Ket

POKERSTARS GAME #17207671514: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2008/05/04 - 21:04:19 (ET)
Table 'Olshaniya' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1003 in chips)
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby ($1196.50 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $5
Born2DogBaby : posts big blind $10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Born2DogBaby
NeillyAA: raises $20 to $30
Born2DogBaby : raises $75 to $105
NeillyAA: calls $75

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $210.00)

   
Born2DogBaby : bets $160
NeillyAA: raises $280 to $440
Born2DogBaby : raises $651.50 to $1091.50 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $458 and is all-in

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,006.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,006.00)

   
NeillyAA said, "..SHIP"

Showdown
Born2DogBaby : shows (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
NeillyAA: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $2005.50 from pot
NeillyAA said, "NO"

Summary
Total pot $2006 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (button) (small blind) mucked
Seat 2: Born2DogBaby (big blind) showed and won ($2005.50) with two pair, Sevens and Sixes

20 minutes and it's over??? oh man I missed another epic moment.

edit: looking forward to the Neilly blog now.

FUCK

HOW DID I MISS THIS

this didn't last long T_T

i hate my life, how did i miss this

It was quite fun for those who didn't miss it : p

On May 04 2008 18:48 Three7MTL wrote: It was quite fun for those who didn't miss it : p

FU !!!!!!

lol so epic

ROFL @ '..SHIP' and then 'NO!'

you got raped, Neilly.

well this wasnt bound to happen

pretty heroic.

good table selection
also nice plays



oh this comment was supposed to be for ket.

Neilly your an idiot

you lucky dog you ket


neilly you are serioulsy retarded. This exemplifies how degen you are because you want to just play good players and hope to run good

seek help

rofl
neilly wtf u better play me next time i sit with u

On May 04 2008 19:27 SKoT wrote: you lucky dog you ket neilly you are serioulsy retarded. This exemplifies how degen you are because you want to just play good players and hope to run good seek help

he refuses to play ggplz because he has so much 'respect for his game'

apparently he rates him above Ket :O

i rate ket way above ggplz.

i was playing my A+ game and got sucked out on with my top two vs his flush draw...that changed the momentum and he took the game.

and ya i had two pair as well on his 76 hand...cooler @ HU if u ask me on such a drawheavy board

i'll be back

On May 04 2008 19:42 NeillyJQ wrote: i rate ket way above ggplz. i was playing my A+ game and got sucked out on with my top two vs his flush draw...that changed the momentum and he took the game. and ya i had two pair as well on his 76 hand...cooler @ HU if u ask me on such a drawheavy board i'll be back

um, you know the money went in on the flop in that hand where ket had 67 right? when you had one pair no kicker no draw?

The LEGEND vs The DONK

LOL @ the title. Ket is not a donk, you fool.

On May 04 2008 19:42 NeillyJQ wrote: i'll be back

NO WAI

On May 04 2008 20:10 Kapol wrote: Show nested quote + The LEGEND vs The DONK LOL @ the title. Ket is not a donk, you fool.

I think this proves otherwise

On May 04 2008 19:55 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2008 19:42 NeillyJQ wrote: i rate ket way above ggplz. i was playing my A+ game and got sucked out on with my top two vs his flush draw...that changed the momentum and he took the game. and ya i had two pair as well on his 76 hand...cooler @ HU if u ask me on such a drawheavy board i'll be back um, you know the money went in on the flop in that hand where ket had 67 right? when you had one pair no kicker no draw?

word. neilly, you have to be on seriously heavy coke or something right?

On May 04 2008 19:42 NeillyJQ wrote: i rate ket way above ggplz. i was playing my A+ game and got sucked out on with my top two vs his flush draw...that changed the momentum and he took the game. and ya i had two pair as well on his 76 hand...cooler @ HU if u ask me on such a drawheavy board i'll be back

all I have to say is


lol

On May 04 2008 18:02 alphablend wrote: jesus Neilly you need Bankroll management and table selection for crying outloud. Also it is worth noting he is hiding from search just goto tirza and olshaniya

you might not be as stupid as neilly but u are goddamn close

If only somehow I could create a machine that allowed me to give him $100 let him turn it into 10k and then erase his memory and repeat the process.

On May 04 2008 19:42 NeillyJQ wrote: i rate ket way above ggplz. i was playing my A+ game and got sucked out on with my top two vs his flush draw...that changed the momentum and he took the game. and ya i had two pair as well on his 76 hand...cooler @ HU if u ask me on such a drawheavy board i'll be back

lol

On May 04 2008 21:10 Bejamin1 wrote: If only somehow I could create a machine that allowed me to give him $100 let him turn it into 10k and then erase his memory and repeat the process.

hahaha... he would still stiff you the hundred, its hardwired into him...

new staking opportunity
you stake neilly $100, terms are he does not owe you anything but when he builds that $100 up to $10k he must play you 2 tables 10/20 hu until he either reaches $20k or you bust him

Better and better table selection with each attempt :D

Next time go vs PoorUser plz :D

neillys back at it nl1k right now

On May 04 2008 23:16 KeanuReaver wrote: new staking opportunity you stake neilly $100, terms are he does not owe you anything but when he builds that $100 up to $10k he must play you 2 tables 10/20 hu until he either reaches $20k or you bust him

This is the best idea ever!

His BR management is insane, he probably has like 3k right now.

Submitted by : alphablend

PokerStars Game #17213717256: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/05 - 03:45:03 (ET)
Table 'Hyakutake' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($3047.50 in chips)
Seat 2: LewisFriend ($1079.50 in chips)
LewisFriend: posts small blind $5
NeillyAA: posts big blind $10

Holecards(Odds)
LewisFriend: raises $20 to $30
NeillyAA: raises $80 to $110
LewisFriend: raises $170 to $280
NeillyAA: raises $400 to $680
LewisFriend: raises $399.50 to $1079.50 and is all-in
NeillyAA: calls $399.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2,159.00)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,159.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,159.00)

   

Showdown
NeillyAA: shows (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
LewisFriend: shows (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
LewisFriend collected $2158.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $2159 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 2: LewisFriend (button) (small blind) showed and won ($2158.50) with two pair, Kings and Sixes

On May 04 2008 19:55 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2008 19:42 NeillyJQ wrote: i rate ket way above ggplz. i was playing my A+ game and got sucked out on with my top two vs his flush draw...that changed the momentum and he took the game. and ya i had two pair as well on his 76 hand...cooler @ HU if u ask me on such a drawheavy board i'll be back um, you know the money went in on the flop in that hand where ket had 67 right? when you had one pair no kicker no draw?

why do you even bother?

this is gettin old

Submitted by : NeillyJQ

PokerStars Game #17213821695: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/05 - 03:58:29 (ET)
Table 'Hyakutake' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: NeillyAA ($1119 in chips)
Seat 2: LewisFriend ($3218.50 in chips)
LewisFriend: posts small blind $5
NeillyAA : posts big blind $10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to NeillyAA
LewisFriend: raises $20 to $30
NeillyAA : raises $80 to $110
LewisFriend: raises $170 to $280
NeillyAA : raises $400 to $680
LewisFriend: raises $2538.50 to $3218.50 and is all-in
NeillyAA : calls $439 and is all-in

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2,238.00)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,238.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,238.00)

   

Showdown
NeillyAA : shows (high card Ace)
LewisFriend: shows (a straight, Eight to Queen)
LewisFriend collected $2237.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $2238 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: NeillyAA (big blind) showed and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: LewisFriend (button) (small blind) showed and won ($2237.50) with a straight, Eight to Queen

Then he reloaded for his last $300 and BUSTO

Rofl no fucking way alpha

neillyments

R
O
F
L

this is so epic. GO NEILLY, GO!!!

rivered for my fucking bankroll - NeillyAA

On May 04 2008 19:27 SKoT wrote: you lucky dog you ket neilly you are serioulsy retarded. This exemplifies how degen you are because you want to just play good players and hope to run good seek help

i think neilly gets too much hate for reasons other than not paying back loans (which is an acceptable reason for hate). why would you hate on someone and call them retarded because of how they handle their roll? different people have different priorities and values and its not a reason to hate on people who are causing u no harm just cause theirs are different to yours.

also you made a comment in observer chat on the table neilly last busted about how you think neilly is stupid for believing hes gonna improve at poker and get good by doing what hes doing, or something to that effect. I believe you're completely wrong in this belief. And i think what a lot of you guys dont realise (or maybe refuse to admit) is that neilly's overall hu game is actually much stronger than you might think or that it may appear. hes probably able to crush low/midstakes hu tables for quite a sick winrate. ofcourse right now he's a very long ways from his 'goal' of being dominant at 5/10nl hu on stars, but still the level he's reached should deserve some credit. he's tough to play against and will crush lots of people who fail to properly handle his ott style, which you probably need to be a hu specialist with a decent level of theoretical understanding to properly do. its a little embarassing for me to say this as frinkx is kind of my friend, but neilly sickraped him. he might have ran above expectation but he didnt run 30 buyins above expectation. a decent 2/4 6max longterm winner who isnt a hu specialist got totally eaten alive by this degen everyone loves to hate on because he epic-failed to make the right adjustments to neilly's game (meaning it isnt easily done), and nobody gave neilly any credit for it.

pssshh frinkx is a tilt monkey that's all.

On May 05 2008 02:11 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2008 19:27 SKoT wrote: you lucky dog you ket neilly you are serioulsy retarded. This exemplifies how degen you are because you want to just play good players and hope to run good seek help i think neilly gets too much hate for reasons other than not paying back loans (which is an acceptable reason for hate). why would you hate on someone and call them retarded because of how they handle their roll? different people have different priorities and values and its not a reason to hate on people who are causing u no harm just cause theirs are different to yours. also you made a comment in observer chat on the table neilly last busted about how you think neilly is stupid for believing hes gonna improve at poker and get good by doing what hes doing, or something to that effect. I believe you're completely wrong in this belief. And i think what a lot of you guys dont realise (or maybe refuse to admit) is that neilly's overall hu game is actually much stronger than you might think or that it may appear. hes probably able to crush low/midstakes hu tables for quite a sick winrate. ofcourse right now he's a very long ways from his 'goal' of being dominant at 5/10nl hu on stars, but still the level he's reached should deserve some credit. he's tough to play against and will crush lots of people who fail to properly handle his ott style, which you probably need to be a hu specialist with a decent level of theoretical understanding to properly do. its a little embarassing for me to say this as frinkx is kind of my friend, but neilly sickraped him. he might have ran above expectation but he didnt run 30 buyins above expectation. a decent 2/4 6max longterm winner who isnt a hu specialist got totally eaten alive by this degen everyone loves to hate on because he epic-failed to make the right adjustments to neilly's game (meaning it isnt easily done), and nobody gave neilly any credit for it.

you're saying his method of "gaining skill" is the most efficient and productive?

Yes, im saying his bankroll management, game selection, etc is retarded. I'm well aware that he is not a horrible player. He consistently runs up 10+ buyin stacks on HU tables; no small feat.

i feel sorry for neilly but i dont think he needs nor appreciates it. he's an adrenaline junkie and gets a rush out of constantly pushing things to it's limit. poker is definitely for him, but in terms of poker being a good and steady source of income, im afraid it won't be for the likes of him.

It is interesting why some people fail at poker, an example

Neilly is a good player from what I have seen, he could probably make 100k+ a year beating NL100 or NL200 or something. But he lacks other elements of a successful player, good bankroll management, from what I have seen tilt control and obviously table selection. Playing Ket, Fayth, F4zi etc def a bad idea. Then you have other people who ARE good at BR managing, tilt control and table selection but they have little skill at the table, and for that reason they are stuck playing NL2 - NL25 for 5 years never bustoing and never really getting anywhere just like neilly but in a different way. He will probably never adjust and change.

On May 05 2008 02:11 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2008 19:27 SKoT wrote: you lucky dog you ket neilly you are serioulsy retarded. This exemplifies how degen you are because you want to just play good players and hope to run good seek help i think neilly gets too much hate for reasons other than not paying back loans (which is an acceptable reason for hate). why would you hate on someone and call them retarded because of how they handle their roll? different people have different priorities and values and its not a reason to hate on people who are causing u no harm just cause theirs are different to yours. also you made a comment in observer chat on the table neilly last busted about how you think neilly is stupid for believing hes gonna improve at poker and get good by doing what hes doing, or something to that effect. I believe you're completely wrong in this belief. And i think what a lot of you guys dont realise (or maybe refuse to admit) is that neilly's overall hu game is actually much stronger than you might think or that it may appear. hes probably able to crush low/midstakes hu tables for quite a sick winrate. ofcourse right now he's a very long ways from his 'goal' of being dominant at 5/10nl hu on stars, but still the level he's reached should deserve some credit. he's tough to play against and will crush lots of people who fail to properly handle his ott style, which you probably need to be a hu specialist with a decent level of theoretical understanding to properly do. its a little embarassing for me to say this as frinkx is kind of my friend, but neilly sickraped him. he might have ran above expectation but he didnt run 30 buyins above expectation. a decent 2/4 6max longterm winner who isnt a hu specialist got totally eaten alive by this degen everyone loves to hate on because he epic-failed to make the right adjustments to neilly's game (meaning it isnt easily done), and nobody gave neilly any credit for it.

Obv a sick level

unfortunately I cant disagree with you more. What you're ultimately saying is that being a huge degen actually pays off. If you flip a coin 30x its bound to get on small streak, you're basing this knowledge off EXTREMELY small sample sizes, it's called a heater for a reason. You're feeding into exactly what Neilly loves to hear. It doesn't matter if he can crush low/mid stakes... (I haven't seen him crush anything past 50NL CONSISTENTLY). To see this post by you though, kinda disappointing bro.

Anyways I think I'm done with LP tbh, if members and admins don't see a problem with his style of play and the lifestyle he is living then that's seriously fucked up. YOU KNOW THIS AFFECTS HIM IRL.

Peace.

hes ultimately saying that neilly isnt bad at poker, just has no discipline.

On May 05 2008 06:13 Svenman87 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2008 02:11 Ket wrote:   On May 04 2008 19:27 SKoT wrote: you lucky dog you ket neilly you are serioulsy retarded. This exemplifies how degen you are because you want to just play good players and hope to run good seek help i think neilly gets too much hate for reasons other than not paying back loans (which is an acceptable reason for hate). why would you hate on someone and call them retarded because of how they handle their roll? different people have different priorities and values and its not a reason to hate on people who are causing u no harm just cause theirs are different to yours. also you made a comment in observer chat on the table neilly last busted about how you think neilly is stupid for believing hes gonna improve at poker and get good by doing what hes doing, or something to that effect. I believe you're completely wrong in this belief. And i think what a lot of you guys dont realise (or maybe refuse to admit) is that neilly's overall hu game is actually much stronger than you might think or that it may appear. hes probably able to crush low/midstakes hu tables for quite a sick winrate. ofcourse right now he's a very long ways from his 'goal' of being dominant at 5/10nl hu on stars, but still the level he's reached should deserve some credit. he's tough to play against and will crush lots of people who fail to properly handle his ott style, which you probably need to be a hu specialist with a decent level of theoretical understanding to properly do. its a little embarassing for me to say this as frinkx is kind of my friend, but neilly sickraped him. he might have ran above expectation but he didnt run 30 buyins above expectation. a decent 2/4 6max longterm winner who isnt a hu specialist got totally eaten alive by this degen everyone loves to hate on because he epic-failed to make the right adjustments to neilly's game (meaning it isnt easily done), and nobody gave neilly any credit for it. Obv a sick level unfortunately I cant disagree with you more. What you're ultimately saying is that being a huge degen actually pays off. If you flip a coin 30x its bound to get on small streak, you're basing this knowledge off EXTREMELY small sample sizes, it's called a heater for a reason. You're feeding into exactly what Neilly loves to hear. It doesn't matter if he can crush low/mid stakes... (I haven't seen him crush anything past 50NL CONSISTENTLY). To see this post by you though, kinda disappointing bro. Anyways I think I'm done with LP tbh, if members and admins don't see a problem with his style of play and the lifestyle he is living then that's seriously fucked up. YOU KNOW THIS AFFECTS HIM IRL. Peace.

On May 05 2008 06:13 Svenman87 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2008 02:11 Ket wrote:   On May 04 2008 19:27 SKoT wrote: you lucky dog you ket neilly you are serioulsy retarded. This exemplifies how degen you are because you want to just play good players and hope to run good seek help i think neilly gets too much hate for reasons other than not paying back loans (which is an acceptable reason for hate). why would you hate on someone and call them retarded because of how they handle their roll? different people have different priorities and values and its not a reason to hate on people who are causing u no harm just cause theirs are different to yours. also you made a comment in observer chat on the table neilly last busted about how you think neilly is stupid for believing hes gonna improve at poker and get good by doing what hes doing, or something to that effect. I believe you're completely wrong in this belief. And i think what a lot of you guys dont realise (or maybe refuse to admit) is that neilly's overall hu game is actually much stronger than you might think or that it may appear. hes probably able to crush low/midstakes hu tables for quite a sick winrate. ofcourse right now he's a very long ways from his 'goal' of being dominant at 5/10nl hu on stars, but still the level he's reached should deserve some credit. he's tough to play against and will crush lots of people who fail to properly handle his ott style, which you probably need to be a hu specialist with a decent level of theoretical understanding to properly do. its a little embarassing for me to say this as frinkx is kind of my friend, but neilly sickraped him. he might have ran above expectation but he didnt run 30 buyins above expectation. a decent 2/4 6max longterm winner who isnt a hu specialist got totally eaten alive by this degen everyone loves to hate on because he epic-failed to make the right adjustments to neilly's game (meaning it isnt easily done), and nobody gave neilly any credit for it. Obv a sick level unfortunately I cant disagree with you more. What you're ultimately saying is that being a huge degen actually pays off. If you flip a coin 30x its bound to get on small streak, you're basing this knowledge off EXTREMELY small sample sizes, it's called a heater for a reason. You're feeding into exactly what Neilly loves to hear. It doesn't matter if he can crush low/mid stakes... (I haven't seen him crush anything past 50NL CONSISTENTLY). To see this post by you though, kinda disappointing bro. Anyways I think I'm done with LP tbh, if members and admins don't see a problem with his style of play and the lifestyle he is living then that's seriously fucked up. YOU KNOW THIS AFFECTS HIM IRL. Peace.

all ket is saying is, neilly is a good player.. he isn't condoning his practices as a poker player...

nielly wouldnt be able to turn $100 into 10k regularily if he was completely clueless I though everyone realized that. He definitely has some talent but its just useless if he cant manage a bankroll and maintain dicipline.

neilly is fearless, i wish i could be more like him... most of us here will be forgotten in a couple of years... but neilly will always be remembered. most of the ppl here call him a retard.. etc... but deep inside you know you have to admire the guy coz he had the BALLS to do what he did.


"you remember neilly?"

"yeah! that dude is crrraaazzzy! remember his HU matches? insane!"

or

"yeah he still owes me 5 bucks!"

...how you think neilly is stupid for believing hes gonna improve at poker and get good by doing what hes doing, or something to that effect. I believe you're completely wrong in this belief.

On May 05 2008 07:51 tokeweed wrote: neilly is fearless, i wish i could be more like him... most of us here will be forgotten in a couple of years... but neilly will always be remembered. most of the ppl here call him a retard.. etc... but deep inside you know you have to admire the guy coz he had the BALLS to do what he did. "you remember neilly?" "yeah! that dude is crrraaazzzy! remember his HU matches? insane!" or "yeah he still owes me 5 bucks!"

Theres a thin line between being fearless and being stupid.

If hes willing to risk financial ruin to be remembered as "that wickedsick crazy dude" on an online forum, then i know which side of the line hes on - and if you think hes cool for doing it - youre on the same side as he is.

you see, he isn't willing to risk financial ruin to be remembered... it's just the way he is... and i'm not saying it's cool or whatever... I'm just saying that you have to like the guy coz he is gutsy....

and to me if he goes broke everyone is gonna call him names and laugh at him... but what if he makes it somehow... what then? is he gonna be considered brilliant? just a thought...

hes not gutsy hes fucking addicted.

its literally impossible for him to make it because he will always fall victim to his desire to up the stakes, gambler higher and get a bigger rush.

yeah i get your point... i'm just a little stoned and thinking of the "what if's"

wait... by saying it's impossible you have already judged someone for what he did in the past... and that's the PAST... the possibilities are endless of what's out there in the future... never close your mind in what's possible or impossible coz these are merely words that limit our supposedly limitless minds...

I dont like to judge people, but i think after such a long time and endless of the same-sort of blogposts from him its pretty safe to judge him the way byrnesam do and i dont think its anything impressive at all what hes doing.

Also sure Neilly is being nice atm paying back depths talking in a pretty manner way but it wasnt long ago he behaved like a complete asshole both in text and in acting, if it takes a $10k lucky upswing for him to behave in a mannerish way hes not a good person at all in my eyes.

open your mind... then your eyes will see the essence of truth...

hm wtf, from neillys HHs and everything he isnt a talented / good player at all -.-

how hard can it be to own a player that stacks offs with lowest pair no kicker no draw ? hit top pair / ez ship, frinkx probably just wanted to outplay someone that can't fold gutshot

On May 05 2008 08:38 tokeweed wrote: open your mind... then your eyes will see the essence of truth...

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stop that!!!

On May 05 2008 08:54 locoo wrote: hm wtf, from neillys HHs and everything he isnt a talented / good player at all -.- how hard can it be to own a player that stacks offs with lowest pair no kicker no draw ? hit top pair / ez ship, frinkx probably just wanted to outplay someone that can't fold gutshot

qft. most hh show him shoving 4bet aipf and getting it done with the most marginal hands... heater?

I can guarantee alot of shit any good player does HU looks stupid in a vacuum but can actually be a great play. Sure, some of the plays are retarded tilt spews but others its really hard to tell.

On May 05 2008 08:54 locoo wrote: hm wtf, from neillys HHs and everything he isnt a talented / good player at all -.- how hard can it be to own a player that stacks offs with lowest pair no kicker no draw ? hit top pair / ez ship, frinkx probably just wanted to outplay someone that can't fold gutshot

you willing to play heads up against neilly?

locoo vs neilly gogogo

rofl he is obviously willing

Hm , I think there is still hope for Neilly.
Hes young and with his recent skill he can easily make like 50K -70K $ year by raping Nl100/ Nl200 HU day and night.

only thing he has to get is a fucking BR management.

On May 05 2008 09:04 SakiSaki wrote: I can guarantee alot of shit any good player does HU looks stupid in a vacuum but can actually be a great play. Sure, some of the plays are retarded tilt spews but others its really hard to tell.

But he does it in 6 max too : )
EDIT: That is, from the few HHs I've seen. I've never played him and don't really want to play him as I'd probably go on insane monster tilt after about 5 hands.