freeroll hand

pretty early in the tourney i don't play tournaments or 9 handed games much. Dude raised UTG im assuming his range is pretty narrow but basically just checking to see if this is standard
Submitted by : traxamillion

Full Tilt Poker Game #6286028789: RakeTheRake $20,000 Freeroll (46966932), Table 129 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:14:08 ET - 2008/05/04
Seat 1: fromthebottom99 (2,845)
Seat 2: AngryFish47 (1,440), is sitting out
Seat 3: Jade RedStone (1,031)
Seat 4: rexwex (1,829)
Seat 5: Altec300 (2,055)
Seat 6: traxamillion (3,630)
Seat 7: CoRoNa03 (1,405), is sitting out
Seat 8: gadzooks64 (1,395), is sitting out
Seat 9: mcdonk (1,425)
Jade RedStone posts the small blind of 20
rexwex posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to traxamillion
Altec300 raises to 120
traxamillion : havent cashed since
traxamillion : nt
traxamillion raises to 421
CoRoNa03 folds
gadzooks64 folds
mcdonk folds
fromthebottom99 folds
AngryFish47 folds
Jade RedStone folds
rexwex folds
Altec300 raises to 1,320
traxamillion raises to 2,219
Altec300 calls 735, and is all in
traxamillion shows
Altec300 shows
Uncalled bet of 164 returned to traxamillion

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4,170.00)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $4,170.00)

   

River (Pot : $4,170.00)

   
traxamillion shows Ace King high
Altec300 shows a pair of Kings
Altec300 wins the pot (4,170) with a pair of Kings

Summary
Total pot 4,170 | Rake 0
Board:  
Seat 1: fromthebottom99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: AngryFish47 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Jade RedStone (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: rexwex (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Altec300 showed and won (4,170) with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: traxamillion showed and lost with Ace King high
Seat 7: CoRoNa03 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: gadzooks64 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: mcdonk didn't bet (folded)

I'd give up these AK many times cause the blinds do not push people to shove AJ

only stupidos does

Yeah let it go early in the tourney imo

Its a freeroll, get allin. You can 3bet and get allin, or just shove preflop and let some random call.

NEVER FOLD PREFLOP !

say it was a more serious tourney with slower blinds / better players do you still feel comfortable getting it in for 50bb utg + 1 vs UTG

On May 04 2008 13:50 traxamillion wrote: say it was a more serious tourney with slower blinds / better players do you still feel comfortable getting it in for 50bb utg + 1 vs UTG

Ya getting it in pre is fine, if we were deeper i'd just flat pre

@Twisted

ok lol, lets say its 10/20 blinds $50 18max turbo sit-n-go, are we still getting any AK all in pre flop? in situations like this?

yes ck

Ok, please explain why would we want to flip our tournament life while blinds are nothing compared to our stack :-)

because youre not always flipping. people are not good players generally so lots of times youll see AJ AQ and other trash hands showing up

On May 04 2008 14:46 ck20 wrote: @Twisted ok lol, lets say its 10/20 blinds $50 18max turbo sit-n-go, are we still getting any AK all in pre flop? in situations like this?

probably just calling preflop unless they are bad, in whichcase its not going to be a flip vs their range.

Readless, id just flatcall vs utg raise first level in a sng

Ok since we have questions about AK there, I'd ask one thing


Is snap calling AK on button vs a chiplider in 100/200 blins while we are 3-4k stacked bad overall? Cause I used to stack people off, they never expected me to have them outkicked, since yesterday, when the flop cale AQ10 and I lost to AQ

On May 05 2008 03:42 ck20 wrote: Ok since we have questions about AK there, I'd ask one thing Is snap calling AK on button vs a chiplider in 100/200 blins while we are 3-4k stacked bad overall? Cause I used to stack people off, they never expected me to have them outkicked, since yesterday, when the flop cale AQ10 and I lost to AQ

AK with 20 or less BB's is an easy call/shove vs anyone

IS THIS STANDARD?????????????????????????


Submitted by : ck20

PokerStars Game #17227928153: Tournament #87313385, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/05/05 - 19:00:07 (ET)
Table '87313385 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: chill~e~09 (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: vegasduffer (1660 in chips)
Seat 3: samaroo1 (1560 in chips)
Seat 4: Patres24 (1410 in chips)
Seat 5: Dada05 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: omskurDZI (1800 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Dudeman IV (1250 in chips)
Seat 9: texbobbyt (1420 in chips)
Dada05: posts small blind 10
omskurDZI: posts big blind 20

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises 79 to 99
Dudeman IV: folds
texbobbyt: folds
chill~e~09: calls 99
vegasduffer: calls 99
samaroo1: raises 221 to 320
Patres24: folds
Dada05: folds
omskurDZI: folds
Hero : raises 1180 to 1500 and is all-in
chill~e~09: calls 1321 and is all-in
vegasduffer: calls 1401
samaroo1: raises 60 to 1560 and is all-in
vegasduffer: calls 60

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $6,070.00)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6,070.00)

   

River (Pot : $6,070.00)

   

Showdown
vegasduffer: shows (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
samaroo1: shows (a pair of Nines)
vegasduffer collected 120 from side pot-2
Hero : shows (a pair of Aces)
vegasduffer collected 240 from side pot-1
chill~e~09: shows (a pair of Queens)
vegasduffer collected 5710 from main pot

Summary
Total pot 6070 Main pot 5710. Side pot-1 240. Side pot-2 120. | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 1: chill~e~09 showed and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: vegasduffer showed and won (6070) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: samaroo1 showed and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 4: Patres24 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Dada05 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: omskurDZI (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Hero showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: Dudeman IV folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: texbobbyt folded before Flop (didn't bet)

lol yes

u cant be serious, look what hands u got it in against

Still lost :C

but ok, i understand this part, i was favorite, if my ace held i'd rule this sitngo

@ck20

I don't see how this could possibly be any good. For example you have 34% equity in this pot. Don't you think that respecting the fact that the blinds are tiny, and not stacking off with ace high preflop here, gives you a better expectation than gamboling against weakies? Added to this is that you have 3600 already, chip leader; additional chips have much less value than if you were average or short stack. In a $3 SNG, I think you'd even get a better expectation folding every hand than playing this hand this way. This does not seem like good SNG play to me.

You don't have to get it in with a marginal edge when you can easily wait for morons to give you a huge edge.

@OP: It depends on the structure of the freeroll, but generally they're so large and the % paid is so small that every reasonable risk is worth the opportunity to chip up. Your play seems defensible.