100nl bet/fold 2nd nuts?

Kind of an awkward spot that you dont get to see very much. I thought I had value in betting riv obv cause im gonna get called by smaller pps sometimes, but then he chekraises allin and i dont kno what to do. Only hand that makes sense for him to chek raise allin here is a q, so should i just fold? idk just a weird spot.

Submitted by : rossi094

PokerStars Game #17187239653: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/05/04 - 00:54:15 (ET)
Table 'Huenna III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($94.85 in chips)
Seat 2: El Asesor ($120.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Hawksley ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: pablostar ($162.35 in chips)
Seat 5: leob2008 ($130.80 in chips)
Seat 6: dr3wfish ($125.75 in chips)
pablostar: posts small blind $0.50
leob2008: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
dr3wfish: folds
Hero : raises $2 to $3
El Asesor: folds
Hawksley: folds
pablostar: folds
leob2008: calls $2

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $6.50)

   
leob2008: checks
Hero : bets $4
leob2008: calls $4

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $14.50)

   
leob2008: checks
Hero : bets $10
leob2008: calls $10

River (Pot : $34.50)

   
leob2008: checks
Hero : bets $24
leob2008: raises $52 to $76
Hero : calls $52

Showdown
leob2008: shows (four of a kind, Queens)
Hero : mucks hand
leob2008 collected $183.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $186.50 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: Hero mucked
Seat 2: El Asesor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hawksley (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pablostar (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: leob2008 (big blind) showed and won ($183.50) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: dr3wfish folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i don`t believe in quads

For one buyin this is fine.

Like Svetoslav said, they NEVER have quads for one buyin. Even when they do.

On May 04 2008 01:32 Svetoslav wrote: i don`t believe in quads

If you folded there I'd 3bet you for life

I dont think a fold is out of the question here if villian isnt supercrazy.

what are you guys saying call putting him on? seriously? c/c c/c c/r here is like always a queen.

Bet more on all streets, they dont belive in overpair .

----------------------- shame on me .


isnt it missing value from the lower pocket pairs or even the 8 4? "ppl dont fold full houses" I read one day on liquid XD

Putting villain on quads here, by requiring only one card, is exactly like putting him on the nut flush on a 4-flush board, where a fold is perfectly fine. I see no problem with folding the river here, not that I could.

why would we check behind river? Thats terrible

ur right sir, sry

bet more on every street. the river you can def find a fold, this is almost never a bluff and never anything worse for value. i probably wont fold anyway though cause well im a station and stuff

i won't fold this even if the villian showed me that he had quads.

i'd just assume my eyes were broken and move my chips.

On May 04 2008 10:46 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: bet more on every street. the river you can def find a fold, this is almost never a bluff and never anything worse for value. i probably wont fold anyway though cause well im a station and stuff

indeed I'd sincerley expect somethign like 55 to call down three pot sized bets cause no one EVER folds boats, EVER

river play is kinda irrelivant call isnt terrible fold is meh, what you should take from this hand is that you need to bet more every street

I never fold so for you nl200 regs on stars reading this dont bluff me please

On May 04 2008 01:32 Svetoslav wrote: i don`t believe in quads

yep even when in one session they flop 4 against me

On May 04 2008 10:46 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: bet more on every street. the river you can def find a fold, this is almost never a bluff and never anything worse for value. i probably wont fold anyway though cause well im a station and stuff