Top 2 on a scary board.

Submitted by : Joe

PokerStars Game #17171718893: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/05/03 - 12:05:53 (ET)
Table 'Sumava' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hotmark777 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 2: JazzyFace ($1000 in chips)
Seat 3: Remoh007 ($2242 in chips)
Seat 4: Joeik ($1000 in chips)
Seat 5: trollbait ($495 in chips)
Seat 6: FoolMeTwice ($1102.50 in chips)
trollbait: posts small blind $5
FoolMeTwice: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Dealt to Joeik
hotmark777: folds
JazzyFace: folds
Remoh007: folds
Joeik : raises $20 to $30
trollbait: folds
FoolMeTwice: calls $20

Flop (Pot : $65.00)

   
FoolMeTwice: checks
Joeik : bets $40
FoolMeTwice: raises $105 to $145
Joeik : calls $105

Turn (Pot : $355.00)

   
FoolMeTwice: bets $260
Joeik : ?

Get it in on the flop. Why else play 10,8 if u dont get it in on that flop.

I like getting it in on flop w 8T here, also I would probably shove the turn at this point, don't think he raise 9J too often, if you weren't beat on flop you probably aren't beat on turn.

I've seen this player raise this type of flop plenty of times, so I'm reraising flop and getting it in, but I'm normally not stacking off to other regs on this board.

w/ no hist i think i call flop fold turn. i dont think hes semibluffing enough and is definitely not playing a worse hand for value like this enough. most of the time preflop he'll reraise JJ+ with a heart as well as prolly reraise good AhXx and fold bad AhXx more often than call (according to my standard default assumptions for a regular without further reads, which we don't have here).

In general I really don't like getting it in on flops like this when I have position, his semibluffs have too much equity so youre in too bad shape vs his range with too little invested, better to call in pos and wait to see a safe turn. I really hate 3betting flop in this hand because of not only this reason but also because semibluffs are a much smaller part of his range than the 'general' case i outlined.

call flop shove non h turn vs this opponent

On May 03 2008 14:46 adam001 wrote: call flop shove non h turn vs this opponent

maybe thats the best line if it was YOU in the hand vs this opponent with the history/dynamic you and villain have. but villain has no hist with op, do you think villain is going to play the same way here against every fullstack reg? would you?

On May 03 2008 09:18 ukfan81 wrote: Get it in on the flop. Why else play 10,8 if u dont get it in on that flop.

On May 03 2008 09:18 ukfan81 wrote: Get it in on the flop. Why else play 10,8 if u dont get it in on that flop.

don't listen to this

ban ukfan81 from high stakes poker forum?

On May 03 2008 09:18 ukfan81 wrote: Get it in on the flop. Why else play 10,8 if u dont get it in on that flop.

i lolled

I agree w/Ket completely here, very well put in words.