2-4 PLO Help

Submitted by : iakim322

PokerStars Game #17121522209: Omaha Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/05/01 - 08:49:49 (ET)
Table 'Edasich III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: bananawizard ($446.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Ikim322 ($956.75 in chips)
Seat 3: wowthatsfast ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: cantona ($587.65 in chips)
Seat 5: caterpillar ($301.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Jefferzon ($412.40 in chips)
caterpillar: posts small blind $2
Jefferzon: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to Ikim322
bananawizard: calls $4
Ikim322 : raises $14 to $18
wowthatsfast: calls $18
cantona: calls $18
caterpillar: folds
Jefferzon: calls $14
bananawizard: calls $14

Flop (Pot : $92.00)

   
Jefferzon: checks
bananawizard: checks
Ikim322 : bets $64
wowthatsfast: calls $64
cantona: folds
Jefferzon: folds
bananawizard: calls $64

Turn (Pot : $284.00)

   
bananawizard: checks
Ikim322 : checks
wowthatsfast: checks

River (Pot : $284.00)

   
bananawizard: checks
Ikim322 : bets $182
wowthatsfast: folds
bananawizard: folds
Ikim322 collected $281 from pot
Ikim322 : doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $284 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: bananawizard folded on the River
Seat 2: Ikim322 collected ($281)
Seat 3: wowthatsfast folded on the River
Seat 4: cantona (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: caterpillar (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Jefferzon (big blind) folded on the Flop

Just a question since I don't play high enough to give you any advice.

Do you think it makes it harder for your opponents to bluff you when they haven't actually made their hand if you lead the turn? I take the aforementioned line fairly often and it seems to work alright for me at lower-stakes.

As for the flop I don't think you induce a raise frequently enough on these stakes to make a small bet more profitable.

I think I'd bet more on the river. They either have a boat or they're not calling.

Hm.

I think flop is a bigger bet anyway, if they have AJT9 or something they're not folding, especially with a spade draw in there so bet sizing won't matter. Lots of turns suck.

Turn is standard imo, river I'd bet small if it doesn't pair and bet big if it does. They could easily have runnered a boat with QT or KT.

Yea I agree I shoulda just bet more on river.

Tomson. I find it interesting that you say it doesn't induce a raise frequently enough on these stakes. I actually did it specifically because I was at this stake. I've played higher before as I was learning (ass backwards right?), and it's something I totally didn't think about. I have seen this sort of thing induce crazy aggression from marginal holdings at higher stakes. I can definitely see how a lot of lower stakes people would be content on calling as opposed to raising in general. Not that it's not the right play in certain situations. I guess it's something I'll have to adjust to.

Benjamin. I can see why it does make it harder for your opponents to bluff you there but well in this specific case, I was more concerned with getting cr'd by an easily made straight than with getting bluffed. A bluff in his spot really wouldn't make sense for "wowthatsfast" anyways.

I like how you played every street.


I'd only pot the river if my opponents are especially bad.

"PF: Standard. I'm going to play this hand in 6 max 2/4. Feel free to disagree."



just out of curiosity, is there anyone in this universe who folds double suited kings pre here?

On May 05 2008 18:51 asdf2000 wrote: I like how you played every street. I'd only pot the river if my opponents are especially bad.

On May 08 2008 09:10 Jelle wrote: "PF: Standard. I'm going to play this hand in 6 max 2/4. Feel free to disagree." just out of curiosity, is there anyone in this universe who folds double suited kings pre here?

no way.

if pf limper is short, i may limp tho.

if river blanks i usually check again and let someone bluff at it usually, unless villains dont bluff much. the only thing ur really getting value from in that spot w/ a river bet on a blank river is 44 or 1010, altho a ton of draws miss and its very easy for someone to bare JJ or AA bluff or something