I still can't figure this guy out

Villain runs 28/20/2.50 , but he isn't insanely lag or anything i don't think, and he isn't a multitabler but still a regular (so I guess he makes plays a lot more than most, but I still haven't seen him make a sick bluff or call).

I would always reraise this PF, but the shortstack went all in twice before after limping and getting raises (losing every race with crap hands), so I fugred I would take it, and probably erdnase would call or isolate again, in which case I was decided to get it all in PF. The hand was hard from the beggining cuz even tho Erdnase plays a lot I don't think he isolates light this shortstack, esp since he seems to pay attetion to the table, but I was still gonna go for it.

Submitted by : locoo

GAME #960382247: Texas Hold'em NL $5.00/$10.00 2008-04-30 18:20:31
Table Rimini
Seat 1: CdaPlop ($419.00 in chips)
Seat 2: tankabbott ($1,000.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Niceguys ($168.50 in chips)
Seat 5: SwedishAnna ($1,146.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Erdnase2 ($1,031.50 in chips) DEALER
Seat 7: azerty66 ($492.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero ($1,000.00 in chips)
Seat 10: 7diavolo7 ($200.00 in chips)
azerty66: Post SB $5.00
Hero : Post BB $10.00

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
7diavolo7: Fold
CdaPlop: Fold
Niceguys: Call $10.00
SwedishAnna: Fold
Erdnase2: Raise $40.00
azerty66: Fold
Hero : Call $30.00
Niceguys: Fold

Flop (Pot : $95.00)

   
Hero : Check
Erdnase2: Check

Turn (Pot : $95.00)

   
Hero : Bet $75.00
Erdnase2: Raise $250.00
Hero : Call $175.00

River (Pot : $595.00)

   
Hero : Check
Erdnase2: Bet $333.00
Hero :

tough hand, against certain players i'd just 3-bet the turn, but without a solid read i feel that is spewy.. i'd fold the river, hes never playing Tx like this valuebetting, so you're hand really is a bluffcatcher, and until you know he can make these bluffs i prefer to give it up, sometimes i might call here for info on a player though, knowing what they played like this could be pretty huge, 'cause it could be a set, or it could be some random trash hes bluffing with..

He is the guy that shoved 55 on J27 vs dario's J3 or something. Jan Heitmann. From what I know of him from tourneys he is TAG with an occasional move.

this is the easiest call ever imo

looks like he coulda picked up spades or a straight draw on the turn. i think i almost definitely call here though.

I usually wont give people credit for being too tricky.

I think u gotta shove turn for protection since flush draw is so likely (unless u strongly feel he'll bluff river if missed), and just fold river as played.

On April 30 2008 12:00 PoorUser wrote: this is the easiest call ever imo

i feel the same way esp since u called turn

looks like 99 or a flush draw on the turn, dont know why you would ever call

On April 30 2008 13:42 Daut wrote: looks like 99 or a flush draw on the turn, dont know why you would ever call

rusrs?

completely depends on opponent imo. as mezmerize said. the guy's almost certainly going to read your hand/line as pretty weak so a random bluff is definitely possible. but then again, if the guy doesn't get out of line much at all, 1 pair is usually worthless

im even more confused now.

My hand is very underreped, but at the same time that 2s is such a bad card to bluff on unless he has a solid read vs me (which i don't think he does) and half pot don't get many folds usually, unless he put me on like QJ, 78 only ?

I agree with daut.

Call your hand is way under-repped and your good here a fair amount of time, and the times your not you still get info on what he played this way.

If he's capable of raising a flush draw on the turn like others are saying his range is much much wider than just flush draw or set of 9s.

On May 01 2008 14:27 kaboom wrote: If he's capable of raising a flush draw on the turn like others are saying his range is much much wider than just flush draw or set of 9s.

.....because? And what are these things in his range that make it "much wider" that play this way?

jq i guess

On May 01 2008 17:18 Nazgul wrote: jq i guess

not many jqs left

On April 30 2008 13:04 NMcNasty wrote: I usually wont give people credit for being too tricky. I think u gotta shove turn for protection since flush draw is so likely (unless u strongly feel he'll bluff river if missed), and just fold river as played.

shoving is pretty bad since hes not calling with worse without some good metagame

id pitch river, but otherwise i think you played it fine

i agree he's rarely calling worse but I don't like the idea of just calling turn when u have to check-fold to half the deck, and you can't be thrilled about check-calling the other half even though u feel ur ahead on turn around 80% of the time.

We cant feel like were ahead 80% on turn and fold.

On May 01 2008 19:32 Rhaegar wrote: We cant feel like were ahead 80% on turn and fold.

im advocating shoving turn and i definitely prefer calling to folding.