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Joe Czech Republic. Apr 28 2008 11:10. Posts 5987

Submitted by : Joe

PokerStars Game #17054604000: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/28 - 12:57:42 (ET)
Table 'Kallisto II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FoolMeTwice ($1390.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Killer_ooooo ($952 in chips)
Seat 3: Joeik ($1118 in chips)
Seat 5: ladyluck00 ($1388 in chips)
Seat 6: bufo523 ($1015 in chips)
RiverTears1 was removed from the table for failing to post
ladyluck00: posts small blind $5
bufo523: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Dealt to Joeik
FoolMeTwice: raises $30 to $40
Killer_ooooo: calls $40
Joeik : raises $100 to $140
ladyluck00: folds
bufo523: folds
FoolMeTwice: calls $100
Killer_ooooo: folds

Flop (Pot : $335.00)


FoolMeTwice: checks
Joeik : checks

Turn (Pot : $335.00)


FoolMeTwice: checks
Joeik : bets $130
FoolMeTwice: calls $130

River (Pot : $595.00)


FoolMeTwice: checks
Joeik : ?

I 3-bet villain last orbit with JJ oop and he gave up on the flop.
This time I thought he was a little more likely to call me a somewhat lighter preflop, with a lot of pocket pairs, AQ, maybe even KQs, not sure.

After the flop, I thought there is a good chance my hand is good, but didnt want to get c/r-ed, so I opted to check. Not sure if this was a mistake or not. On the turn I figured he most likely has a weak hand that has some showdown value, like pocket pairs and maybe even AJ (or AK, but I think he would reraise back pf). So I decided to go for a small bet for value/protection.

River brought an Ace and he checked. At this point, I thought he most likely had a pocket pair, but wasnt completely sure if I could rule out Ace high. My question is, whether it is better to check here and hope to win a showdown some percentage of the time or bet the ace and make him fold all the pocket pairs (I think he would fold 22-JJ to a decent river bet) and win most of the time, but occasionally lose a bigger pot to some Ace or something?

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell)

Last edit: 28/04/2008 11:12

SakiSaki

Sweden. Apr 28 2008 11:13. Posts 9687

fold pf

sry im to tired tyo comment on anything else right now

what wackass site is this nigga?

JonnyCosMo United States. Apr 28 2008 11:32. Posts 7292

Check, I'm more inclined to bluff the river if I bet the flop -> check the turn. Plus you got a little showdown value (not really much at all but you beat passively played draws which FoolMeTwice almost never plays passively but might since the board pairs the turn.)

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser

tomson

Poland. Apr 28 2008 15:05. Posts 1982

After the flop, I thought there is a good chance my hand is good, but didnt want to get c/r-ed

Well, if you get CR-ed your hand is probably not good.

If you think about his range here it's actually pretty easy to play this hand. He just calls pre-flop 112bb deep with 1 person behind to act. You can rule out AK, QQ+ most of the time. Therefore it's a good spot to bet the flop. Checking isn't bad as well, but he can bluff you out later on with something worse.

He checks again on the turn. You can rule out AQ and KQ. His range is 22-JJ, AJ and maybe some suited connectors (not TJ and not hearts). You bet, he calls. He has TT-JJ most often.

The river brings an Ace which almost never helps him. You can turn your hand into a bluff and expect to get a fold almost always (unless he's very good to notice that your small turn bet is a bit inconsistent with Ax and hero call you).

Peace of mind cant be bought.

Last edit: 28/04/2008 15:06

[vital]Myth This user is a quality poster

United States. Apr 28 2008 15:36. Posts 12159

just bomb the flop

if your range is so polarized that you aren't betting 2nd pair on the flop in this spot, that's pretty bad

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser

[vital]Myth This user is a quality poster

United States. Apr 28 2008 15:37. Posts 12159

what i'm saying is you should be checking almost 100% of hands on the flop, just to force action on later streets and be tricky and mix everything up, or if you're not checking almost 100% then you need to be betting 2nd pair. if you can't bet 2nd pair and aren't worried about your nit opponent bluffing you, then just check down.

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser

NMcNasty

United States. Apr 28 2008 17:11. Posts 2041

Raise a little more pre. As played with the other player's coldcall and stacks slightly above 100 BB he's going to think he has implied odds with a pretty wide range. There's going to be a lot he'll just fold or call with on the flop, and I think you can safely cbet.

As played I probably bet river for metagame reasons. His hand really looks like TT-JJ but if he does end up making the call showing down 97o is going to mess with his head a little.